Help me recreate these sounds in A4!

Hello!

I’ve been trying (unsuccessfully) to try and recreate these sounds in the A4. I’m 90% sure these sounds come from a modular but was trying to see if I can make similar in the A4.

I’ve been trying to play around with the Amp/Env settings, but I can’t make it snappy enough for the bass, or get the balance in the filter between low end/harmonics.

The lead sounds fairly similar (to me) just transposed with more sustain, so should be easy to do once I got the bass nailed!

Any ideas would be really useful!

Thanks :slight_smile:

Post a recording of your best attempt so far?

I’ll try to (sadly my computer got stolen in a recent theft, so Have no way to record easily)
But I’ll try and come up with a way tomorrow! :slight_smile:

For me, most of the percieved “snappiness” of that bass line comes from the quick attack of the drums. Listen to 0:50 where the drums cut out for a second and you can hear what the bass sound is actually comprised of. Shouldn’t be too hard to get there with the A4 then you can work on the drums…

Ahhh, the Beethoven of electronic music, what a genius…maybe it was an FM bass and you’d have better luck with the MnM (or upcoming RYTM with the analog kick/bass)?

Sounds more like a four operator FM based synth patch to my ears - but I am listening on my built in iPad speakers.

i agree. sounds like FM synthesis. Also hearing some chorus or resonator type effect added. Might want to try layering two different sounds on the A4 to achieve this. Set to poly for track 1 and 2 and set it to “use track sound”.

So i just patched up something on my modular synth that sounds kinda close to this. FWIW, I patched one oscillator into the exponential FM input of the oscillator I’m actually using. Not using any other output of the first OSC. Sine and Triangle waves of second OSC going into my Borg Filter (kinda like a MS20 filter) with the envelope of each gate “pinging” the filter resonance. The tonal quality comes from the FM and the “snappiness” is coming from the filter envelop ping.

So in terms of the A4, try using the triangle waveform, set the envelope to modulate the filter res for “snappiness”… not sure how to achieve the FM tonal quality on the A4.

Hope that helps. I might be way off from what was done in that track, but to me, I like what I hear and think it’s pretty close sounding.

The A4 doesn’t allow keyboard tracking on the LFOs which could have helped with the FM characteristics, AM won’t do in this case.

FM sounds are all over the place in this track, so you’d definitely be better off with a digital FM synth to recreate that 80s feel of that track. I fear the A4 is the wrong beast for this.

Luckily I have a MnM here, (soon to be sold) so I’ll give it a go on that, thanks!

I really wish it had a keyboard like the A4!

Okay guys, one more request; again an Aphex track:

The other sound I’ve been trying to make is the bass sound from 2:02 onwards. I’m really grateful for all the help :slight_smile:

As the name implies it was made on a synton Fenix modular so I don’t know if I can get a good approximation or not

That basic saw bass sound can be done in no time on any moog, what’s special about it is the stereo effect which IMO could be achieved by doubling the track L/R with tiny bits of different settings. Definitely feasible with the A4, just make sure to lower OSC levels to reduce filter distortion and use moderate resonance and filter-env-amounts. The rest is sequencing trickery, as with most aphex tracks.

I’ve made a pretty good approximation with these settings:

OSC 1: pulsewave, sub -10, tuned 1 oct down
OSC 2: Transitor pulse, -20 Tuned 0 with +19 detune
Filter: Freq 14, res 41, over +19
Filter 2, req 24 res 127
Amp: A0 D0 S53 R68 Shp11

Applied Chorus +77

One good thing about this patch I’ve noticed is that you can vary the chorus/OSC2’s tuning to create a little variation/stereo variation

I know how to save this as part of a kit, but how can I save it as a preset?

Also, is there a way to copy within the pattern eg: copying 1:4 to 4:4

Thanks again! :slight_smile:

shortcut:

Save sound = [YES/SAVE] + [KEYBOARD D1]

on the pattern:

Copy pattern = PLAY MODE, [FUNCTION] + [REC]
switch to the new page

Paste pattern = PLAY MODE, [FUNCTION] + [STOP] (repeat to undo)

Cheers :slight_smile:
Can that be used to paste different parts within a pattern? Tried that but doesn’t seem to work

you can copy individual triggers, individual pages, or the whole pattern (all pages)

man a synton syrinx is my dream synth (along with ems synthi)… not sure about the modular but the keyboard has formant filter system - 1 lowpass + dual bandpass