Guitar pedals with daw, reamp?

FullMono · 2024-01-17T13:04:11.796Z

Hello, do you use guitar effects pedals with your DAW? I would like to use them to add grain to my tracks but without recording them live like that I have a dry and wet sound. If so do you use a reamp? I’m thinking of buying one because I don’t have the correct level for the track processed by the effects pedals. Do you have a similar experience? Does this correct the problem?
Thanks in advance !

kuroichi · 2024-01-17T13:10:01.749Z

You can use an interface with inputs and outputs to create a send/return to the pedals so you have the original audio and the effect on separate tracks.

You can use a reamp if you are worried about levels, but some pedals can accept line level. I use a walrus audio canvas re-amp.

FullMono · 2024-01-17T13:12:13.213Z

kuroichi:

You can use an interface with inputs and outputs to create a send/return to the pedals so you have the original audio and the effect on separate tracks.

Thanks for your answer
That’s what I do but the level of the track processed by the pedals is not very high and it saturates at times

kuroichi · 2024-01-17T13:13:32.792Z

Yeah in that case a re-amp like the walrus one could help. Alternatively you could reduce the send volume going out to the pedal as a quick fix.

Really depends how sensitive the pedal is as reducing the input too much can affect the audio returning from the pedal. (As in low volume, or not enough drive to get the pedal into its sweet spot etc)

Mister_Wood · 2024-01-17T13:15:09.755Z

I picked up a Palmer reamp box and it allows me use some pedals that really didn’t like line level. For ~€70 you can’t go wrong really.

FullMono · 2024-01-17T13:18:35.913Z

kuroichi:

Ouais, dans ce cas, un réampli comme celui du morse pourrait aider. Alternativement, vous pouvez réduire le volume d’envoi vers la pédale comme solution rapide.

Cela dépend vraiment de la sensibilité de la pédale, car une réduction excessive de l’entrée peut affecter le retour audio de la pédale. (Comme à faible volume, ou pas assez de drive pour mettre la pédale dans son sweet spot, etc.)

yes I did that but it sounds bad or too weak
thanks

FullMono · 2024-01-17T13:19:33.874Z

Mister_Wood:

J’ai acheté un boîtier de reamp Palmer et cela me permet d’utiliser des pédales qui n’aimaient vraiment pas le niveau ligne. Pour environ 70 €, vous ne pouvez pas vraiment vous tromper.

Palmer Daccapo ?
I think about Radial Engineering Pro RMP

janglesoul · 2024-01-17T13:29:49.768Z

I’ve got one of the blue and red Radial re-amp boxes. Unsure which one, and unsure if it’s better or worse than anything else. It simply works. I have it patched into my patchbay.

I’ve heard (but can’t verify) that it also would be possible to run a DI-box in reverse.

FullMono · 2024-01-17T13:35:59.915Z

Ok thanks

Mister_Wood · 2024-01-17T14:16:07.604Z

Radial stuff is really good and lasts forever.

Mister_Wood · 2024-01-17T14:16:52.739Z

The reverse DI trick sorts the impedance but not the level, so you need an attenuator too, depending on the pedals in question.

g3o2 · 2024-01-18T11:05:34.275Z

Radial Engineering StageBug 6 does this passively. By design it attenuates the signal by 2db and has a 10/15 db attenuation switch.

Radial Engineering

StageBug SB-6 - Radial Engineering

The StageBug SB-6 is a high performance 2-channel passive audio isolator designed to accommodate both balanced & unbalanced signals.

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benway · 2024-01-18T13:05:59.384Z

As far as I know a lot of Boss pedals will effectively act as a re-amp box, haven’t managed to try it out yet because I must be one of the few people in the world who doesn’t have any Boss pedals just sitting around.

FullMono · 2024-01-19T12:05:21.293Z

I ordered a radial, I tried the thing with a boss pedal but I’m not convinced of the result

benway · 2024-01-19T12:44:52.461Z

FullMono:

I’m not convinced of the result

Interesting, not convinced in what way? I’d been considering grabbing a Boss tuner to use mainly as a y splitter and reamp box more so than just for tuning, there were a bunch of people saying and doing videos on this in the past couple of years so if it doesn’t actually work that would be a bummer.

Were you using it to re-amp, i.e. run a signal from your DAW or synth through pedals and then into an amp? If you want to just run through pedals and back into the DAW it’s probably a different problem and solution that’s needed.

RytmMASCHINE · 2024-01-19T14:21:58.822Z

Hi, Which Radial exactly?

I’ve found that Radial EXTC-Stereo but it would cost an arm and a leg.

Radial Engineering

EXTC-Stereo - Radial Engineering

The EXTC Stereo allows you to connect guitar effects pedals to the inputs and outputs of pro audio equipment such as recording interfaces and mixing consoles, so you can incorporate stereo pedals into your recordings and explore new creative...

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Mister_Wood · 2024-01-19T15:50:03.413Z

Boss pedals have a buffer (as many others do) and that can help in some situations, but not others. .
I have one pedal that’s really picky about the signal it gets, and only really had good results with a reamp box for that particular pedal.

YMMV but a buffer isn’t remotely like a reamp box, buffers are really just there to manage the cumulative capacitance of a signal chain, and they do a great job of that. I’m guessing the fact that they lower output impedance is why people are using them in this way, but I can’t imagine it’s going to be a universal solution.

benway · 2024-01-19T16:38:15.317Z

Yeah, always seemed like a bit of a hack, guess you control level just through the DAW output. Bit stingy but for me I’d be willing to give it a go mainly because this isn’t something I can see myself doing particularly often - but then again once you get into it you might get the taste for it. I’d also been looking at another hack that some people claim works of running into a passive DI box “in reverse”. In general for the little guitar I use I’m pretty much fine with ITB effects and amp sims, plus the pedals I want to use with synths and other bits coming out of the DAW are fine with line level, so I’m probably more open to hacks or cheaping out on this than people with more guitar centred practice would be.

I see that Walrus Audio have started doing a specific reamp box now, although it’s pretty much the same price as the Radial equivalent as far as I can see.

nkrusty · 2024-01-19T16:55:54.365Z

Can confirm that you can use a passive DI in reverse to reamp
The Radial JDI manual encourages you to use the DI box in reverse for reamping!

radialeng.com

JDI-Manual-Web-02-2022.pdf

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lowph · 2024-01-19T17:05:31.096Z

nkrusty:

The Radial JDI manual encourages you to use the DI box in reverse for reamping!

Thanks for sharing that! I’ve used passive DI boxes in reverse with good results, but thought I was most likely breaking the rules