Flex mode

demone · 2016-02-28T17:02:36.000Z

When I use the “Flex Mode” Loading LOOP to the OT in time, OT will display SAMPLE LOAD ERRORS and " Errors:! Out Of Memory” , but my CFcard capacity 64G, so I can only use Static mode import Same LOOP , So I Wanna ask, this problem is anything wrong with card or Flex mode ?

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Sternenlicht · 2016-02-28T17:07:58.000Z

Probably you exceeded the sampling ram ? Its only ~ 80 mbyte for the flex machines. If you have longer samples, its better to have them in the static machine.

jurfin · 2016-02-28T17:13:11.000Z

I think you’re running out of memory. In the default configuration you get 16 seconds of recording time for each recorder buffer. You can make this longer in the project settings menu under memory. Also it’s possible that I’m completely wrong, but it kind of looks that way to me. Hope that helps!

demone · 2016-02-29T00:15:56.000Z

""Sternenlicht"":

Probably you exceeded the sampling ram ? Its only ~ 80 mbyte for the flex machines. If you have longer samples, its better to have them in the static machine.

Can I only use up to 80 megabytes in Flex Mode in a Project? Because I ready a whole live show , there are many loop , certainly more than 80 megabytes. So I wanna ask, what’s different Flex Mode and Static mode ?

demone · 2016-02-29T00:17:55.000Z

""jurfin"":

I think you’re running out of memory. In the default configuration you get 16 seconds of recording time for each recorder buffer. You can make this longer in the project settings menu under memory. Also it’s possible that I’m completely wrong, but it kind of looks that way to me. Hope that helps!

thanks dude , my problem is my whole sample from ableton Live , I ready a whole live show . So I wanna ask, what’s different Flex Mode and Static mode ? where can change setting about memory ?

J_C_Selector · 2016-02-29T03:54:19.000Z

Hi, someone should have a better answer for you, but static machine means your sample is not stored in the ram, it is streamed from the cf card. There are memory settings in the main menu but I may not be able to explain them well enough. Sorry.

Huno · 2016-02-29T05:38:38.000Z

""demone"":

[quote=“jurfin”]I think you’re running out of memory. In the default configuration you get 16 seconds of recording time for each recorder buffer. You can make this longer in the project settings menu under memory. Also it’s possible that I’m completely wrong, but it kind of looks that way to me. Hope that helps!

thanks dude , my problem is my whole sample from ableton Live , I ready a whole live show . So I wanna ask, what’s different Flex Mode and Static mode ? where can change setting about memory ?
[/quote]
Ok, when Flex Mode is active, the smaples loaded go to a ram service. Imagine this as Ableton live RAM clip mode for audio.
Static mode, runs from the CF.
If you think about it this way. Flex Mode are faster. So, you could change them on the fly. Static machines need to read out the sample before you can trigger them. I’ve loaded 6 minute songs to Static machines with no issues JUST waiting th time for them to be loaded.

This is how I used them. In my flex machines I use just resamplers, loopers and no more thatn 5 seconds samples. and 5 seconds is al ot. So my flex are filled with drum hits, pads, one shots, vocals etc.
How ever, on my Static I load bigger samples like riffs, leaks, drum loops, long vocal arrangement.

In Static machines, you can’t edit a sample with the editor. You can add loop points and that things, but you can’t crop them or edit them in that regard, like save them or what ever.

In a Flex machine, you have full acces to the editor. There you can cut samples and save them for example if you record a percusive loop and need each smaple isolated you can crop them and chopp them out. I do think that Flex Machines can’t load more thant 16 seconds per slot. I COULD BE SUPRA WRONG THO.

demone · 2016-02-29T06:12:46.000Z

""Huno"":

[quote=“demone”][quote=“jurfin”]I think you’re running out of memory. In the default configuration you get 16 seconds of recording time for each recorder buffer. You can make this longer in the project settings menu under memory. Also it’s possible that I’m completely wrong, but it kind of looks that way to me. Hope that helps!

thanks dude , my problem is my whole sample from ableton Live , I ready a whole live show . So I wanna ask, what’s different Flex Mode and Static mode ? where can change setting about memory ?
[/quote]
Ok, when Flex Mode is active, the smaples loaded go to a ram service. Imagine this as Ableton live RAM clip mode for audio.
Static mode, runs from the CF.
If you think about it this way. Flex Mode are faster. So, you could change them on the fly. Static machines need to read out the sample before you can trigger them. I’ve loaded 6 minute songs to Static machines with no issues JUST waiting th time for them to be loaded.

This is how I used them. In my flex machines I use just resamplers, loopers and no more thatn 5 seconds samples. and 5 seconds is al ot. So my flex are filled with drum hits, pads, one shots, vocals etc.
How ever, on my Static I load bigger samples like riffs, leaks, drum loops, long vocal arrangement.

In Static machines, you can’t edit a sample with the editor. You can add loop points and that things, but you can’t crop them or edit them in that regard, like save them or what ever.

In a Flex machine, you have full acces to the editor. There you can cut samples and save them for example if you record a percusive loop and need each smaple isolated you can crop them and chopp them out. I do think that Flex Machines can’t load more thant 16 seconds per slot. I COULD BE SUPRA WRONG THO.

[/quote]
So if i just play some loop for song , i need use static mode is ok ,right ? thank u you explain !!

demone · 2016-02-29T06:18:14.000Z

""J_C_Selector"":

Hi, someone should have a better answer for you, but static machine means your sample is not stored in the ram, it is streamed from the cf card. There are memory settings in the main menu but I may not be able to explain them well enough. Sorry.

thank u man .

Huno · 2016-02-29T16:29:40.000Z

""demone"":

[quote=“Huno”][quote=“demone”][quote=“jurfin”]I think you’re running out of memory. In the default configuration you get 16 seconds of recording time for each recorder buffer. You can make this longer in the project settings menu under memory. Also it’s possible that I’m completely wrong, but it kind of looks that way to me. Hope that helps!

thanks dude , my problem is my whole sample from ableton Live , I ready a whole live show . So I wanna ask, what’s different Flex Mode and Static mode ? where can change setting about memory ?
[/quote]
Ok, when Flex Mode is active, the smaples loaded go to a ram service. Imagine this as Ableton live RAM clip mode for audio.
Static mode, runs from the CF.
If you think about it this way. Flex Mode are faster. So, you could change them on the fly. Static machines need to read out the sample before you can trigger them. I’ve loaded 6 minute songs to Static machines with no issues JUST waiting th time for them to be loaded.

This is how I used them. In my flex machines I use just resamplers, loopers and no more thatn 5 seconds samples. and 5 seconds is al ot. So my flex are filled with drum hits, pads, one shots, vocals etc.
How ever, on my Static I load bigger samples like riffs, leaks, drum loops, long vocal arrangement.

In Static machines, you can’t edit a sample with the editor. You can add loop points and that things, but you can’t crop them or edit them in that regard, like save them or what ever.

In a Flex machine, you have full acces to the editor. There you can cut samples and save them for example if you record a percusive loop and need each smaple isolated you can crop them and chopp them out. I do think that Flex Machines can’t load more thant 16 seconds per slot. I COULD BE SUPRA WRONG THO.

[/quote]
So if i just play some loop for song , i need use static mode is ok ,right ? thank u you explain !![/quote]
for a long and already nicely chopped zero crossed loop, yes. Static is your choice.

I found out, (and this happened to me live) I had a small short 5 second guitar loop that was supposed to be looping with the Start End Loop markers that I edited inside the OT, I saved everything, turn off the machine, went to the gig, load it, play it. it stop looping.
Static Machine didn’t save my “loop points”.
I haven’t had any issues like that with flex Machines.
Remember or at least I see it this way:

Flex Machines are inside the OT, all their fucntions are saved INSIDE the ot.
Static MAchines, don’t. They are just read outs.
Learn to use both, and you will be happy.

demone · 2016-03-01T02:28:24.000Z

""Huno"":

[quote=“demone”][quote=“Huno”][quote=“demone”][quote=“jurfin”]I think you’re running out of memory. In the default configuration you get 16 seconds of recording time for each recorder buffer. You can make this longer in the project settings menu under memory. Also it’s possible that I’m completely wrong, but it kind of looks that way to me. Hope that helps!

thanks dude , my problem is my whole sample from ableton Live , I ready a whole live show . So I wanna ask, what’s different Flex Mode and Static mode ? where can change setting about memory ?
[/quote]
Ok, when Flex Mode is active, the smaples loaded go to a ram service. Imagine this as Ableton live RAM clip mode for audio.
Static mode, runs from the CF.
If you think about it this way. Flex Mode are faster. So, you could change them on the fly. Static machines need to read out the sample before you can trigger them. I’ve loaded 6 minute songs to Static machines with no issues JUST waiting th time for them to be loaded.

This is how I used them. In my flex machines I use just resamplers, loopers and no more thatn 5 seconds samples. and 5 seconds is al ot. So my flex are filled with drum hits, pads, one shots, vocals etc.
How ever, on my Static I load bigger samples like riffs, leaks, drum loops, long vocal arrangement.

In Static machines, you can’t edit a sample with the editor. You can add loop points and that things, but you can’t crop them or edit them in that regard, like save them or what ever.

In a Flex machine, you have full acces to the editor. There you can cut samples and save them for example if you record a percusive loop and need each smaple isolated you can crop them and chopp them out. I do think that Flex Machines can’t load more thant 16 seconds per slot. I COULD BE SUPRA WRONG THO.

[/quote]
So if i just play some loop for song , i need use static mode is ok ,right ? thank u you explain !![/quote]
for a long and already nicely chopped zero crossed loop, yes. Static is your choice.

I found out, (and this happened to me live) I had a small short 5 second guitar loop that was supposed to be looping with the Start End Loop markers that I edited inside the OT, I saved everything, turn off the machine, went to the gig, load it, play it. it stop looping.
Static Machine didn’t save my “loop points”.
I haven’t had any issues like that with flex Machines.
Remember or at least I see it this way:

Flex Machines are inside the OT, all their fucntions are saved INSIDE the ot.
Static MAchines, don’t. They are just read outs.
Learn to use both, and you will be happy.
[/quote]
I think OT is a particularly complex machine for all user, Now I used it only for playback loop and as a MIDI sequencer in my performance, a recording and some advanced machine mode now I didn’t use it .

esmail · 2016-07-23T07:21:13.429Z

@demone Was your problem with flex mode solved ?? Because I have the same problem.

avantronica · 2016-07-23T08:37:06.110Z

There’s an explanation above as to what the issue was … it’s user understanding … there is a finite amount of space to store samples in RAM, it’s only 80Mb, if you try to load samples totalling more than 80Mb then it simply can’t work

The OT is designed to play longer samples directly from the CF card too, it’s just at the expense of being able to do fast modulations of aspects such as sample start position which is really only robust when done in faster computer RAM … if you want to play longer samples and don’t intend to do much with the ‘play head’ then streaming samples directly from the CF card is just fine, this is discussed in the manual