Finetune Samples

miketheman · 2013-11-29T14:31:06.000Z

""MauriKomoran"":

Hey

Is there any posibility to finetune the samplepitch in the OT ?
I mean is there a way to higher the Resolution of the Pitch Knob on the Playback Page ?

No unfortunately not…

gbravetti · 2013-11-29T14:49:16.000Z

May be You can but at the cost of deactivating the time stretch algorithm.

Lazos · 2013-11-29T21:38:48.000Z

[quote="“lindefelt” date=“2013-11-29 15:21:58"”]
Sure.
Just use a static custom LFO assigned to pitch (or rate).

The depth knob then becomes your micro-pitch.
[/quote]

This made me smile when I discovered it. Yes, the OT is microtonal.

bambrose · 2013-12-01T14:28:53.000Z

""lindefelt"":

Sure.
Just use a static custom LFO assigned to pitch (or rate).

The depth knob then becomes your micro-pitch.

Nice tip, cheers

elenacortes · 2013-12-01T15:04:36.000Z

[quote="“lindefelt” date=“2013-11-29 15:21:58"”]
Sure.
Just use a static custom LFO assigned to pitch (or rate).

The depth knob then becomes your micro-pitch.
[/quote]

sorry, but my english is poor, and i don’t really understand your tips. What do you mean by “static custom lfo” ?
Thanks for your help.

METAGEIST · 2013-12-02T08:54:16.000Z

custom lfo means to use the lfo-designer. static lfo is then just a line of constant values. the static lfo trick is described several times in the forum … you should find it with the search function …

elenacortes · 2013-12-02T14:31:40.000Z

""METAGEIST"":

custom lfo means to use the lfo-designer. static lfo is then just a line of constant values. the static lfo trick is described several times in the forum … you should find it with the search function …

Thanx a lot for the explanation. Apologise for haven’t seen the other relative threads.
nice community

elenacortes · 2013-12-02T14:32:49.000Z

""METAGEIST"":

custom lfo means to use the lfo-designer. static lfo is then just a line of constant values. the static lfo trick is described several times in the forum … you should find it with the search function …

Thanx a lot for the explanation. Apologise for haven’t seen the other relative threads.

nice community

miketheman · 2013-12-02T14:50:42.000Z

Holy smoke!

I wasn´t aware of that tips, gotta check that up at once when I get home!
I´ve had some situations myself where I´ve wanted a finer resolution to get a sample in tune…

While we are at it:
is there something else you`ve found out that the LFO designer could be used for, that may not be obvious at first glance?

Thanks alot for sharing this great tips!

/Mike

miketheman · 2013-12-02T15:00:35.000Z

Ah, from this thread: http://www.elektronauts.com/t/akwf-waveforms-tuning/1497

Quoting post by StinkyBeat among others:

"The internal resolution of many parameters is much greater than 0-127. Create an LFO in the designer that is either all high or all low. How high or low depends on the range & resolution you want. The closer to zero the higher the resolution and the smaller the range. In this case, send the LFO to pitch and use the LFO depth for fine tune.

Static LFOs with scenes is also used for transposing a sequences on the audio side of the OT."

husc · 2013-12-02T15:17:14.000Z

Excellent workaround!

nikofeyn · 2014-11-03T07:57:37.000Z

just got my octatrack this past week, and it’s confusing to me why you can’t just fine tune the sample if it’s so easily done using this lfo designer trick.

this thread was helpful though, as it allowed me to tune up two samples like i was needing.

chapelierfou · 2020-07-16T13:24:51.740Z

Bumping this topic. The static LFO trick works well, but it’s a bit cumbersome and a waste of lfos.
I would suggest a “fine tune” attribute in the Audio Editor (as there’s no room left in the SRC page), that would be just perfect.

dave_angel · 2020-07-16T13:27:25.330Z

chapelierfou:

waste of lfos

You could also use external MIDI CC sources, or MIDI loopback the OT MIDI sequencer. Still quite cumbersome however…

dave_angel · 2020-07-16T13:30:06.928Z

chapelierfou:

I would suggest a “fine tune” attribute in the Audio Editor

Onboard fine tune would certainly be appreciated!

chapelierfou · 2020-07-16T13:44:41.956Z

Yeah it seems like a must have on a “sampler”.
This and -24/+24 transposition even if it sounds dirty !
One other feature, related to those, would be a “root note transpose” option. I’d love to be able to have a pitch value settable to a perfectly tuned C, or to the root of the scale I’m using.

JSZ · 2020-07-19T09:47:53.107Z

The way the OT is, having ± 24 semitones of range would mean even worse resolution because the range has to be representable using 128 values.

There’s ways to get more range and set the base pitch to a certain note and whatnot but it’s not as convenient as having dedicated commands.

chapelierfou · 2020-07-19T10:14:28.776Z

From my perspective (but I make tonal music), if the “fine tune” were set somewhere else (in the AED attribute), I’d be happy with semitones steps on the pitch knob.

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chapelierfou · 2020-07-19T10:36:17.316Z

Thanks, I’ve seen this already. But honestly, it’s really not what I’m after. I’m only concerned by the OT workflow here.