Yeah I think it will be interesting to see what Epiano sounds come out of it… I think for many musicians (probably not the ones in this forum) this is going to be a total preset box akin to the DX7. I wonder if there will be a new classic epiano sound that we hear on all over music if this does well enough. A lot of the demo sound remind me of D50 sounds. I also wonder for the keyboardists that dont plan to program it, if the presets will stand up in non cinematic work, it seems like the perfect thing to score a movie with in a studio. I suppose if it gets enough interest from live musicians we will probably see a full 88 key version soon.
If it’s anything like the Continuum, users will be able to mould and shape presets just by performing, so each performer will be able to put their own stamp on a sound without ever getting into the patching.
Currently, there are a wide variety of sounds in the EaganMatrix, ranging from the simplest waveforms to wildly complex sonic landscapes. It’s not just limited to cinematic stuff, though it is very, very good at that kind of thing. I often plumb it through the Analog Heat and use it as an ersatz electric guitar (my favorite patch for this is not actually a guitar at all, but a cimbalom patch).
That said, the EaganMatrix is my go-to for exotic, pseudo-acoustic sounds.
I noticed that in the pictures of the future design of the Osmose, there will be a pitchbend slider and a mod slider. So my guess is they’re not zero state live controls like usual pitchbend and mod, but more a kind of adjustment settings to set the sensitivity you want to transmit to the sound. Therefore I guess it would be possible to have more straightforward “piano” sounds that don’t evolve too much through the hand gestures. I think it would be a clever feature to make the Osmose very versatile.
That sounds totally reasonable. I kinda scratched my head when I saw that pitch bend control.
I would love to see the Madrona Labs VSTs used with something like the Osmose. Although it does seem similar to what the EaganMatrix is trying to accomplish on it’s own.
Thanks for the link,
I’m also in the Preorder Club, the second chance that is.
Just want to quote what Haken themselves write about Osmose on the website.
## EAGANMATRIX FORMULAS INCORPORATE Y (FRONT-TO-BACK) POSITION OF FINGERS ON THE CONTINUUM PLAYING SURFACE; IS THERE A COUNTERPART ON THE OSMOSE KEYBOARD? +
The Osmose provides Y information in a very different way. As soon as you begin pressing down a key, the Osmose continually tracks key position (Z) until you hit an initial “stop” at max Z. Then, if you press more, you get a different feel, and you are moving in the Y direction. The EaganMatrix preset can utilize the detailed contour of your initial attack (many Z values, not just a single 7-bit key velocity or “strike” value), and then utilize Y to affect details of the decaying timbre. This is just one example of how the Osmose Y and Z can be used in an EaganMarix preset. By making the Y feel so different from Z (before and after that “stop” point) Expressive E has successfully made fine Z and Y control feel quite natural to keyboard players, without interfering with traditional keyboard technique.
## HOW IS THE EAGANMATRIX DIFFERENT ON THE OSMOSE KEYBOARD? +
In the acoustic world, a piano has advantages over a violin for playing more notes more quickly more accurately – and it has the disadvantage of losing fluidity and free-tuning. In the EaganMatrix world, you will hear the difference between an Osmose keyboard and a Continuum, despite the EaganMatrix sound engine being identical.
Some of Lippold Haken’s favorite Theremin recordings are Theremin with Piano – the differences in the instruments make for such beauty together. He is looking forward to the next ContinuuCon (in Lisbon) – it will include duets between Continuum and Osmose, and he thinks those performances will have a similar beauty.
## IF I PLAY THE SAME EAGANMATRIX PRESET ON AN OSMOSE KEYBOARD AND A CONTINUUM FINGERBOARD, WILL IT SOUND THE SAME? +
To anyone with listening skills developed from playing non-keyboard instruments, the “pitch rounding” that happens at every note on a keyboard makes it sound totally unlike a Continuum. Even if you use the same preset, the physical interface with which you interact with that preset is paramount. Much of what makes the Continuum sound so unique among synthesizers (and meld with acoustic ensembles so well) is that the performer is always trying to play perfectly in-tune, but can never actually achieve perfect intonation. This differs from a keyboard in two ways: (1) In one sense, a keyboard is always perfectly in-tune at the beginning of a note, since the lever you hit determines the beginning pitch. (2) In another sense, a keyboard is always out-of-tune, since it cannot play perfect intervals. In the last 100 years people have gotten used to the equal tempered scale, but it is a bit like getting used to fast food – the real thing still has appeal. In the real thing, you are not picking from a set of predefined pitches for each note; instead, each note is its own event, adjusted by the performer to what is going on at the time. The advantages of a keyboard come at a cost; the Continuum and Osmose do not replace each other, they complement each other.
The EagenMatrix allows for different scales and tunings.
Soooo… is it summer yet ?
I’ve always wanted a hardware physical modeling synth, and the tight integration with such a sensitive interface makes it a really appealing instrument. I also have a MPE capable synth, so this would be the perfect controller for that as well. It’s the kind of thing that I don’t think I would ever get at full price, but the discount made it too tempting. Really looking forward to digging in to that sound engine
Which one?
Yes, the final design includes a “happy holidays” decal on top of the display that cannot be removed
Looks like an RGB screen anyway!
Deckard’s Dream
the picture is from that email
very interesting - I wouldn’t think there is much time for this kind of changes. How long before production are changes possible (if we get the hardware in summer…)?
the eager matrix (sound generation) was running on the DSP board from a haken continuum.
( i suspect it’ll be the same for production model, possibly slightly modified?)
the software you see running on the computer is the matrix editor - and that will essentially be the same on the Osmose.
so this side is, id think, pretty close…
the control section (screen , encoders etc) were dummied up, so these will have to be hooked into the DSP as ‘performance controls’.
i believe they said the keybed/action was pretty much done.
so i think its quite a bit further than ‘proof of concept’ - more like they have most of the parts, but now need to fit them all together.
I’d also assume, as they do this, they will have to make changes/updates to reflect the realities of production in large numbers.
so lots to do… and it’ll be interesting to hear their updates… follow them on their journey.
Orac on the Osmose perhaps?
Though I think Eagan is on a dedicated CPU not a PD friendly Linux environment …
lol, yeah special DSP - that us mere mortals don’t have access to
Will be interesting to see what an new influx of Eagan matrix users will bring to that community - does it develop much or is it more of a celemony approach?