No, sorry mate I must have crossed the line, I’m the one to blame.
My apologies.
I just lost a minor contract job now, because I insisted on a bonus for fulfilling the client’s fast deadline.
It’s good to keep a sense of humor…
You will be better off in the long run. Living well is the best revenge.
In the past I have given music for free, and I have also been paid for music, free music means that some people who might never have heard your music otherwise will now get to hear it. Of course that does not mean to say you will get any people purchasing your music from the back of it, but it does guarantee that some might, if you don’t do it then it guarantees that none will.
Would you post a song to youtube or soundcloud ? - essentially this is giving your music away too, these companies profit from your free music too. Or how about spotify where the royalty is so low that unless you are well established it might as well be free.
Even bandcamp, you can listen to music for free, all day - sure it provides a way for people then to instantly purchase - but most just listen without purchasing anyway.
Even before the internet, tapes, radio, etc allowed people to listen to music for free - the argument that this is a commercial company is of course valid, but no matter what you or I think they will get someone to provide them with music for free. That someone will probably be thinking the same thing as you, but then they will do it anyway. And if they don’t someone else will. Might as well be you?
Get some free skateboard stuff, your name in the credits, retain your publishing rights.
It is easy to be too precious about our music, and I dislike the way that music is under valued, but you have no shortage of music in you, and neither do the millions of other people making music, this is one of the reasons that music is undervalued I think. You deciding not to do it isn’t going to send a message or hurt anyone else.
I’m playing devils advocate somewhat here, of course.
Interesting defense.
Still, the video without sound is not as good as with some sound.
The music is playing a good part of the success of the video IMO.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Throwing in another good word for exposure, I got like 90% of my SoundCloud followers from some YouTuber who I allowed to use a track for free, got a few random merch freebies out of it too. I have zero ambition so I don’t care either way, but the arguments against it are also totally understandable
I’m guessing maybe skateboarding isn’t really an “underground” thing in China, having arrived there relatively late. Skateboarding companies now are pretty much just clothing / lifestyle brands as opposed to the anarcho-capitalist boys clubs they started out as.
Jean Michelle Jarre got paid when he did his Concerts in China.
Quote you said
1981 ?
For shows, yes. For listening to music, no. Ironically every single one of my admittedly not too numerous shows was paid. I didn‘t even have to ask.
So what. He said ever
Nice of you. Thanks!
If you did shows in China then why do you need exposure? Just sayin’
They really do gear. I‘m not sure if they even have clothing. But one thing is true, while skateboarding isn‘t huge here it doesn‘t have that underdog/punk vibe.
More shows.
But your already famous dude
After this thread certainly hahaha
It’s becoming basically just sports everywhere, kind of like snowboarding already did. Sure it retains some of the anarchist vibe, but IMO it’s become a lot more commercial and superficial than it was when I was a young skater punk.
I started music releasing with creative commons rights and basically got used to just doing music for fun. Now I feel a bit more interested in getting a bit of cash back, but it’s never much or all that significant. I’m honestly just happy if a label will pay for mastering (and give me a cut of sales of course).
I’ve also done music for friends’ films that that they poured tons of money into but never gave me a cent of (like your situation). But, later they volunteered to do nice stuff for me like making a really nice music video. In that sense, it’s really up to how close you are to them I guess.
I also think there’s a huge disconnect between visual and musical artists. They might just not be mature enough in their craft to realize the investment they need to make to make something good on both ends.
I probably would have said yes, but I’ve also said no to stuff before if it was too vague or unreasonable. I do however usually regret saying no more than yes in the long run.