Remember all it does that other synths don’t do 
Tradeoffs!
you can do wub wubs while pressing down on the encoder, pressing down activates the acceleration. I do wish there was one additional level of acceleration in the middle that was mapped to 1:1 127 range but with the degrees of an analog pot, so it feels analog… unless you go super slow. the resolution capability of these encoders is so fine i don’t get at all even the need for all the acceleration layers for a knob with 127 points on it. line 6 helix is the same way and it drives me nuts. with a quick flick you can go from 10ms to 2000ms on a delay but it takes 25 half turns to get from 150ms to 300ms. wtf 
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Wubs was just an example , try do which ever you please no matter the parameters at a quick rate , I’m seeing the point of precision but would of made sense to activate precise control by pushing it instead of accelerating it , tough compromise I guess or just a click of the button allows you to either switch between the two
Ive had a few beers , excuse my grammar
As already stated I love the thing Roger , otherwise I wouldn’t be passionate about some resolutions
As to answer below (cant post anymore as new member) most synths etc can make precise adjustments whilst maintaining the response/manual tweak speed to sound ratio without cutting out , no ?
I mean the push-knob feature is kind of the official workaround, you are guaranteed to get fast movements with it without moving the knob much.
There are two kinds of acceleration we’re talking about here, the push-turn does accelerate the value but it actually disables the acceleration curve, so you get a deterministic response.
It’s not my ideal because the tradeoff is it has ZERO nuance.
How do you have knobs that are both incredibly precise for edits and also work well for performance is the question Elektron has probably been grappling with for years.
In my hot take opinion, it’s a wild goose chase. The precision should just be somewhat higher than their old boxes, not virtually unlimited.
Whole values option please !
Weird on my HX Stomp too.
Pubs ? Fast rate ? 
If you think some encoders are faulty you can run test mode : hold Func + power on.
Trig 1, then turn knobs.
Elektron encoders are not ideal for live tweaking. Typhon as reference !
I’d use external midi control or external synths.
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In a perfect world, I think it should work like this:
- Non-push-turn: value moves kind of slowly, like the old boxes
- Push-turn: one full turn of the knob accesses the full range with as fine res as possible (for continuous params. on things like notes it doesn’t move quite that fast)
On the whole the turn-algorithm feel is at best okay on average, some parameters are too slow and many too fast, but it’s the nature of the beast
It’s not the same as a synth with pots or others with different position strategies - there are plusses and minuses - if you want a more direct feel there is the push method i reference in my first reply
if that is a compromise too far then it’s not a device for you, using an external ‘absolute’ controller is not a sensible option, you miss too much of the elektron workflow
as always, see what a device can do, don’t focus on what it can’t do unless it’s a showstopper - scratchy pots is not so good if they are, but any replacement will behave the same, so the feel will not change
it explains how to make fast parameter changes in the manual
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More direct, but not natural feel imo. I’d prefer the opposite.
10 years Elektron user. I sanded my OT buttons pressing them all the time.
Options !!!
See rounded OT buttons.
Originally flat.
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Ok so I have a better understanding now of the need for the precise and or more slower operation regarding turns
so then I guess the next thing i could add would be to change the way we can access the acceleration, rather than having to apply pressure on fingers whilst moving the thing , try doing that when it’s placed on an angled stand , can we simply just click the button to have it change between the two types in a future update ?
Someone mentioned about my lack of reading the manual , well look mate , holding it down if want to jam live twiddling knobs at certain speeds is hardly ideal still……
if we could have a better way of accessing the faster response as a pose to having to have to hold it down would be definitely welcomed
Access to acceleration speed is likely to be in every feature request list I’ve ever seen on this forum
So … decades
But - renaming midi cc did come along so maybe digitone 2 can do it could be an accessible variable rather than controlled.
But then the next request would be for every individual encoder on every page to have their exposed values , stored per track / sound.
Or ability to save encoder presets.
They’re all the natural successors to the 1 original request.
Good luck.
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I’d be happy with that one request , as by far ergonomically viable currently having to push down , especially as I say if it’s also sitting on an angled stand
So yeah a nice click state of being able to change between the two different types of rotation would be greatly appreciated