Something like this could give you more MIDI inputs and outputs, connect the USB-C to the Expert Sleepers, gain a USB host, and still power it with mains electricity if needed. It also has Bluetooth MIDI capability.
Yeah thanks that looks like it would work to split the usb midi.
It all gets very complex though just for the lack of a midi thru.
âŠI only wanted another couple of audio outsâŠI might hold on until the tonverk gets a decent stretch function.
EditâŠjust read the FH2 does usb midi through so could potentially be an option! Trust expert sleepers to think of everything!
Iâm also thinking about how the Outbox would fit into my setup. Personally, I wouldnât want a pile of cables, another receiving device (mixer or similar), and several effects pedals.
I would consider the outbox if I could send the three effects outputs to three pedals and back to the Digitone/Digitakt, but on the other hand, I lose multitrack recording if I use Overbridge only for this.
It would have been great to be able to use Overbridge in conjunction with the physical outputs and an additional USB output to connect to the computer.
I hope Tonverk works as a host for Overbridge someday. Although I suppose I still couldnât do it in conjunction as Iâd like, but just with a single USB cable. Yes, I hate too many cables, but I also hate computers, haha.
So now that this is out, can anyone recommend a multifx box with multiple inputs (at least 4 and ideally 6 or more) and individual parallel processing of each input? Which doesnât take up too much space?
The only one Iâm aware of is the godfather
Overbridge already splits the tracks into separate Live inputs, what would you gain in DAW use?
I can see the use of youâre dawless.
I have a hybrid setup with analog mixer/rack gear. All my jamming and writing gets done in harware old school style⊠I have suffered for years trying to use interface only with vsts and controllers only to realize i absolutely hate using the computer that way⊠Pointing and clicking is not making music imho. Ten inputs into ableton routed however i please and i get the sound i want, then can add and edit whatever, even come back out to analog for fx pedals etc. the possibilties are endless!
Stereo outs only on the digi boxes are the achilles heel, so i really cant wait for the outbox to hit the shelves!
I hear you, I was just pointing out you already have 10 outputs straight into Live, that you can use in exactly the same way. I have a template that has everything routed and donât touch overbridge in Live.
Yea, havent really used OB honestly, tried it with my PC and og DT but it would just âstealâ my focusrite asio and was just a big headache at the time. I have a mac mini now and aggregate devices are a thing but ive heard it can be tricky⊠Im super allergic to computer issues and problems cause they get in the way of my ideas. I use my sr16 as a clock master (taptempo/strtstop pedals kick ass) until i get an idea then switch over and restart ableton as the master and use an apc40mk2 to arm tracks or make loops in session mode. Everything seems to run in tempo and on the grid with barely any jitter or issues (this took a ton of trial, error and frustration over the past year but it was worth it). Sorry for the long reply, i just love talking about this stuff, its been a passion since the 90âs when i started out with a tascam 4 track!
Btw, Im more of a live band jammer dude (funk,rock,metal ,industrial) than a âtechnoâ dance music guy⊠Not thats theres any thing wrong with that, lol.
The cool thing about OB is that you donât need to mess around with aggregate devices you can use OB and still use your interface at the same time without having to configure anything. Other than installing the relevant OB plugins for whatever devices youâre using.
Right on, i will have to check it out some time. It still means it would bypass my mixer setup though, (rant incomingâŠ)i like the way it sounds going through the wires and gear which to me is the whole point. It feels good to use physical eqs, faders, pedals etc. The grit and punch and crust is built in that way vs using plugins to try to recreate that which i think is fruitless and uninspiring , not to mention time consuming and costs more $$$ for virtual stuff i cant touch and manipulate. To me THE HARDWARE IS THE POINT of it all. I like the mess and randomnes of it. I like playing instruments like a musician and learning traditional theory and songs. Plus, i get to use all the computer stuff too after the fact⊠Best of both worlds imo. To each his own, or many ways to skin a cat as they say. ![]()
youâre talking about digital audio over usb correct? why would there be a need for 8 DACs? Iâm sorry I donât follow this line of reasoning, can you elaborate? Also, the Outbox 8 is clearly designed to function with multiple different Elektron boxes, but youâre talking about specific machines, I dont see the overlap here.
Well this is a month old conversation but you said âCurrently, there are only two mono input (one stereo) channels/tracks within these Elektron boxes. What youâre suggesting would require much more than a breakout box, it would require 8x the amount of processing dedicated to external inputs within these machines.â
I was just pointing out that within the AR there are already 8 dacs internally that send the output of the sample layer for each track into the analog signal path VCF->Drive->VCA of each voice. And because of that you can actually send 8 tracks of audio through the OB plugin into the AR and run stuff through the 8 analog voice paths. A theoretical âinbox 8â product would allow you to do that without a computer which would be pretty cool imo.
And a box like TV, being completely digital should be able to handle it as well. You have 8 tracks of digital audio samples already being processed through the internal fx, busses, etc. Making something like a âthru machineâ that lets you process external audio through the TVâs tracks wouldnât require â8x the amount of processingâ. The processing is already there, the box just lacks the additional input ADs to bring in multiple channels of audio. Which is what an âinboxâ concept would take care of.
Now, I see what you mean, not as a realtime feature that can be used with the drum machine at the same time, but rather as a processor. I can see why you might want that, but it seems like a completely different conversation, an Analog Rytm expansion, specifically, rather than another box that can function with multiple different Elektron units. Unless there are other boxes that share this same architecture. As a neutral third party with no skin in the game for this product you describe, Iâd say⊠I wouldnt hold my breath for this one.
Iâve put up my video chatting with Elektron about the capabilities of the Outbox 8, where they demonstrate the new menu system, talk about potential uses and muse about a potential Inbox 8 in the future.
Elektron said end of May/early June in the video, so hopefully the release is just around the corner!
cv options look excellent. Iâm in for those.
Im currently in the market for a midi-cv module to sync my dt2 & dn2 with my modular. have my sights set on an fh-2, but im wondering if the outbox would be able to fill in a lot of the midi-cv duties of the fh-2?? im still wrapping my head around the outbox but it seems like its going ti be an incredible asset to us elektron users.