DT2 owners: how much are you using the Euclidean sequencing?

Hi all,

I’ve been contemplating upgrading my DT1 > DT2 primarily because I dig Euclidean sequencing and generative pattern creation in general. Curious how owners are getting on with this feature. I’ve used it a lot in eurorack with Pam’s New/Pro Workout, Dnipro Dot; and a few grooveboxes, such as Sonic Potions LXR, Deluge, etc. and it’s always been an interesting way to come up with rhythms.

Besides this, I’m not sure there’s a ton else I’d gain from upgrading as most of the other new features aren’t hugely important to me.

I looked into the Retrokits RK-002 but I see this as a little too basic compared to the built in functionality. No rotate, no logic, etc., plus it ties up MIDI ports. Plus of course there’s always the possibility that this gets backported to DT1, though there’s no evidence to support this yet.

I think it’s worth it to me, but I’d like to hear the thoughts of people who’ve used this for a while.

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I’ve never used Euclidean sequencing before the II but use it reasonably often. I feel like sometimes it’s a good start place with Hats or even a lead melody then I’ll FUNC+turn off Euclidean so it locks in as Trigs and plock around and move things. It’s also great for getting a perc or Tom into a rhythm that’s already established.

Quick question: What can you do with the Euclidean sequencer on the DT2 that you can’t do by just punching in trigs the usual way?

Tweak the settings quickly to change up the rhythms.

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Technically nothing, it’s just a way to dial things in quickly and hear the difference, say, between quarter, 8th notes and 16th notes with the twist of a knob rather than having to turn several trigs on/off. A similar question would be why have a knob to adjust cutoff frequency when you could punch the numeric values in via a keypad.

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I use it to add a secondary fill sometimes: populate the Euclidean sequencer and the regular one, switch between them, say, for a snare roll.

It can be a good way to quickly audition percussion patterns, and the double sequencers on DT2 offers more flexibility than some other Euclidean sequencers I’ve seen.

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Euclidean offers “beat” presets with a lot of customization, it’s quick and you can come up with something you wouldn’t have come up with otherwise.

But that’s not all.

The Elektron implementation offers 3 patterns on one track in a few knobs turn:

  1. your usual grid seq
  2. Euclidean 1 seq
  3. Eucidean 2 (by changing xor/or stuffs)

For live performance that can be fun.

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OOOh, it just occurred to me that CTRL ALL can probably be used with Euclidean sequencing, no?

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no I don’t think so. that’d be great though

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No? I watched a video and it looked possible. You can see it at 18 seconds into the video, he turns the Euclidean sequencer on for all tracks at once while holding TRK while adjusting EUC.

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oh! I would have thought otherwise so that’s nice to know!

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I’m not using it. Tried it and I can hand place notes 1, 2, 3, etc steps apart from each other manually.

For me, the “random” sequencing would be better with some melodics. They don’t have to be “in key” but a random note generator with scales would be more inspiring to someone like me.

The Euclidean sequencer, even with the bolean thing is too predictable

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Are the euclidean parameters LFO destinations? (RTFM not practical ATM)

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I’m pretty sure no, but you can modulate them externally via CC

I’d use Euclidean seq much more if parameters were lfo destinations.

NRPN actually. More complicated, but doable with 4CCs. I did it recently with DT2 midi tracks, midi loopback.
Added FILL to generate patterns.

Digitakt II Tips & Tricks - #260 by sezare56

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Agree, would be much more interesting to me if you could modulate it

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I’ve tried to use it over and over but I always comes back to lack of setting note per generator.
This would open up to some nice bass lines . You can work around it by turning on only generator 1, trig lock a new note to all of them, do the same on generator 2, and then start blending them, but that takes more time than just jamming :-/

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Next Elektron needs to add a shift register :wink:

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I use it about 2 out of every 5 days, sometimes 3 out of every 7 days.

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