Drumlogue or Razzmatazz?

Dymaxion · 2022-10-16T23:03:00.437Z

I think the answer depends a bit on whether you’re using them standalone or with, say, an external sequencer plus a knob box.

Lieder · 2022-10-16T23:35:22.714Z

Just curious why you say that. I preordered and am being told it will arrive in the next few weeks. Did you hear something contrary to that?

PeteSasqwax · 2022-10-17T06:11:11.170Z

Yes, I spoke to the Korg guys at Synthfest last week and they were saying that the chip shortage has meant that the demo unit they had at the show was the only one in the country & they were being told that it could be 6 months before they can expect to start shipping units.

Moonwax · 2022-10-17T08:58:05.877Z

This was rather response to the topic starter

Lieder · 2022-10-17T11:16:17.507Z

Well dang… if that’s the case I’ll have to have a word with the shop I preordered from. They said they wouldn’t charge for the preorder until they were incoming and I was charged last week.

PeteSasqwax · 2022-10-17T11:20:40.864Z

Whereabouts are you? This was only the word of Korg UK so other countries may be in a different situation

jaijaison · 2022-10-17T11:43:52.198Z

On the razzmatazz, can a sample be played chromatically or the pitch be automated?
I would love to see the razzmatazz as a mini groovebox.

Lieder · 2022-10-17T13:39:19.885Z

US. I ordered from Detroit Modular. I’ve had great experiences with them in the past but it sounds like they are doing some renovation on the website and possibly on site so communication has been fairly poor lately.
I was clearly told though that money would not be taken until product was heading to them. I’ll have to call on Tuesday to clarify if that’s the case.

My rep at Sweetwater just got back to me stating early November, but said it’s not “firm”.
Not sure why Korg can’t be a bit more open about this. They clearly told people it would be mid October as most retailers had that on their sites. Now I’m seeing much later dates on those same sites.

A bit irritating to say the least. But, I’ve been part of the manufacturing side (not music gear, outdoor gear) and I saw how in house customer reps (aka sales reps) would flat out lie to get orders and then play dumb or make excuses when products weren’t ready.

I hated it then and still do today… Normally I stay quite clear of preorders and new releases but for some reason my GAS got the better of me this time.

PeteSasqwax · 2022-10-17T14:52:37.126Z

It could absolutely be different in the US (and I hope that’s the case). The Korg UK guys were gutted about it, having just launched it only to be told that they had no idea when they could fulfil orders.

Gaia.Tree · 2022-10-17T15:01:02.783Z

Ooh, the cab distortion sounds crucial, I’m wondering if this device can be my “sample a loop from the BlackBox, dirty it up and send it back” type thing. My wallet is hiding in fear lol

jottwehh · 2022-10-17T15:19:54.446Z

jaijaison:

can a sample be played chromatically or the pitch be automated?

I don’t know yet, I can look into that. What does the manual say?

Gaia.Tree:

dirty it up

It definitely can do that. Send me a loop and I can try to give you a little example.

Noisebuddy · 2022-10-17T15:59:24.749Z

SoundReverend:

That’s the point, buying something that might turn into something good can be very disappointing… rather buy something for what it can do now

The Drumlogue is obviously limited but i guess it’s exactly that what makes it interesting and it will sound somewhat different… anyway… is there somewhere a manual for downloading?

jaijaison · 2022-10-17T16:41:37.008Z

I haven’t looked at the manual yet, will check it out

natrixgli · 2022-10-17T16:46:28.344Z

jaijaison:

On the razzmatazz, can a sample be played chromatically or the pitch be automated?

You can automate pitch of the operators via MIDI CC currently. The entire device listens on all MIDI channels at once, or optionally one static MIDI channel and each “pad” (drum voice) listens for a specific note. I do not think the inbuilt sequencer currently supports any automation.

I submitted a feature request to add a MIDI multi mode that would split each voice up on its own MIDI channel to open up the possibility of playing the voices chromatically.

jaijaison · 2022-10-17T17:00:32.601Z

Thanks! I was already thinking about using the slicer, with a loop of hits in a perfect scale.

Lieder · 2022-10-17T18:38:08.303Z

I think this may all work out in a good way. I’m suddenly entranced with the Twisted Electron MegaFM. Hopefully the mk2 will be out very soon and that is where I will sink my money into.
Probably best to let the Drumlogue air out a bit

BassesAndPads · 2022-10-17T18:53:08.245Z

Just got my razzmatazz and this thing is super deep. More to come but I’m impressed so far.

natrixgli · 2022-10-17T20:24:10.939Z

BassesAndPads:

this thing is super deep

That is what I was expecting based on the handful of demos. Mine arrives tomorrow!

jottwehh · 2022-10-18T08:11:21.118Z

I ran DT & DN thru the Cabinet Distortion.
Its my first time recording a Video, so be gentle. Its clipping often, but maybe its helpfull anyway:

Omar · 2022-10-18T08:19:22.416Z

Just watched that: I’m impressed
(The patterns you feed into the razz are really good, by the way)
It comforts me into thinking that this nanobox has a character on its own, which is something I value in new gear nowadays.

I mean, probably the Drumlogue has the potential to become something really good in the future, with its own specific sound, but, as someone stated here, it’s better not to put too much expectations into hypothetical features that might never happen.