Drum computer/synths without limits. No Samples!

I totally relate, and I don’t think I can add much, except: the monomachine

Have you tried it?
Soundwise, is unique.
Conceptually, The FX track and routing are fantastic.

It’s my favourite drum machine. Except it’s limited to 6 tracks, also because it’s not really a drum machine.

So yes, I can relate. I wish there was something else.

When I dive in the MNM or the korg prologue, I wonder: is there a drum machine in this world that would fit me like these two instruments do? But I’ve come to accept that there isn’t, to tell myself not to indulge in GAS and consumerism, through unreal expectations, that will only drive me away from music.

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You devil. :smiling_imp:

I’m really happy I can’t afford buying one. Am I?!

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Ya I guess the learning curve on that one is also too steep. It also costs a lot of time to get into it’s quirks.

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Digitone 2 absolutely rocks as a drum machine, do yourself a favor and check it out. Tempest has been in the back of my mind for over a decade but every time I find myself with GAS in the last 8mo I’ve just pulled out DN2 and cured it.

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Plumbutter is worth looking into but it’s more spirits and forest dust than something you can program explicitly

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If one doesn’t get on with Digis, then the Analogs are worse, and the MD and MnM are much worse.

(btw., there’s a big difference between OG Digis and DNII/DTII.)

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Interesting view. I respect your opinion, but my experience from OG Digis and Analogs has always been the opposite. What’s to learn from that?

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I need to print this out on a little piece of paper and stick it in my wallet!

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Nothing, since there’s the important part in brackets :wink:

… To give an example for the MnM: It has no trig preview.

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If we are talking about the DN, we can also talk about the M8 I guess. The M8 FM synth is gorgeous for drums, as well as the macrosynth instrument (it’s mutable instruments’ Braids). You should especially look into this if you’re into the MD and the MnM.

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Well, thanks for sharing another view, then. :slight_smile:

@B_LD Do you have some examples of the kind of music you make?

It’s not so much about the music I make but more about the way I approach designing sounds. Nevertheless…

There you go.

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… some DN II drums …





Edit: DNII goes 808 :wink:

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DNII IDM Addendum





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I feel the need to bump The Division Department’s 01/IV a little further!!!
It is a drum synth (no sequencer) however each of it’s 4 voices are identical, and any one can make any drum sound your heart could desire: hats, BD, snare, toms, rides & crashes; and a lot more! No triggers (just why?) and midi TRS-B are small annoyances, but they’re easy to look past once you hear it working. The machine is an absolute beast.

Definitely, worth a 2nd look, as IMHO it’s exactly what you’ve described as what you’re looking for: The, dare I say it, universal drum synth.

~ AdB3

P.S. Apparently they’re no longer in production, sadly, but check out the archived site:

and more importantly their SC page:

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Too many songs and too little time, but I’m working on it! :wink:

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To add another thing you might consider: you’ve released an EP just a few weeks after you got your Rytm. That speaks to the power of it imo!

So it might be worth asking yourself the following questions (which you probably already did):

  • Do I want to make tracks more quickly and release more? Or do I prefer deep sound design sessions at the cost of less output.
  • Is the A4 and AR combo perfect for switching between both modes? Maybe sample some A4 sounds into AR (like you’ve already mentioned) or find new ways of fusing both into a new kind of hybrid machine?

I also agree that adding some more control elements to AR might work wonders. Or you think again what exactly bothers you about DN II interface that might be solved by adding a controller. From my experience, the MIDI implementation of digis is fantastic and you can basically map anything to something like a Faderfox, including performance macros or mutes.

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I see no one mention this one;

Its on the Akai mpc or force line up, as free plugin.
Very powerful with lots of fx possibilities.

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@B_LD

Why haven’t you considered the TR8-S ?

Minimalism. Do more with less.