Direct outs out of phase with stereo outs?

mmpro1 · 2015-01-21T19:53:38.000Z

On my machine, the direct outs are phase reversed from the stereo outs…is this a known issue?

Thanks!

MM

Least_Useless · 2015-01-22T06:48:26.000Z

Do you notice it by hearing or do you measure it somehow? I could replicate it if you tell me how you notice it. I run the effects on the main and the rest on separate outs and have not noticed anything by hearing.

Blip · 2015-01-22T23:54:10.000Z

it is usually very audible by loss of tone / bass and can also cancel out sounds completely from the mix. It can be measured with phase scope plugins on audio tracks in a DAW or with an expensive oscilloscope if analogue.

it is essentially when 2 tracks are at opposite polarity with the same sound characteristic (ie. timbre & frequency).

sry no time to test this out right now, maybe i’ll get round to it at the weekend. however, i’d be very surprised if this was the case and also not sure why you would want to combine individual outs with main outputs in the mix? Would also be useful to understand how you tested this / steps to reproduce…

Least_Useless · 2015-01-23T12:58:47.000Z

The reason for running both is that the individual outs do not pass the fx so if you want to use the fx when using individual outs you have to turn off the the track routing to main and use the mains as fx channel only.

mmpro1 · 2015-02-20T15:11:47.000Z

I noticed it because I tried using the stereo outs and wanted to add a little extra kick dry to it and instead of adding volume, the kick was reduced in level because it was out of phase.