Digitakt II sequencing digitone arp sync problem

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So i just got the genius idea to use the sequencer of digitakt 2 to sequence digitone to get 8 bars out of my sequences (haha i know i know 99.9% of you are aware of this).

I cannot get my arp to sequence in correct time. when i live record the arp into the sequence it sounds great/on time but when playing back the sequence it sounds off time. i have a feeling its a midi issue but i cannot find the solution.

digitakt is set for clock send and transport send and digitone is set for clock receive and transport receive.

any help is appreciated i’m still not the most technical producer

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I’m also having this issue! Live recording sounds great, but when you play it back its out of sync. Have you had any luck finding a solution for this?

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Welcome @mochihead

Are trigs recorded with Quantize Off ? (Rec+Play twice to change mode).
Not sure if microtiming influence arp playback on DN 1…

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Hello! I’ve tried it both quantized and unquantized and didn’t make a difference. I also checked the micro timing and its right on the beat.

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What if you play Digitone without DT2 sync ?

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The Digitone alone, stays in time. If I send only the Digitakt clock to the Digitone, and play arp notes on the Digitone, it stays in time.

If I send the sequence from the Digitakt to the Digitone without the arp on, it stays in time. This is in both grid and live record modes. Once I turn on the arp, the Digitone it goes out of sync.

Something happens once its recorded on the Digitakt and then sent to the Digitone arp, that’s when it goes haywire. I can play it live without recording and it’s in time.

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Not sure it will help but try micro-timing the entire midi sequence back slightly, just as an experiment. Nudge it to before the step.

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Weird. Midi wise, I don’t know what would differentiate live played notes vs sequenced notes, and create an offset.

It is possible to send sync from Digitone to Digitakt, and sequence Digitone with Digitakt.
I’d also try that.

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This sounds like the same issue I’m having - In response to the post by giacecco that you shared

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I just tried sending the clock from the Digitone to Digitakt and then sending the sequence from Digitakt to the Digitone and it was still out of sync :frowning:

I really appreciate your help!!

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I have to check with Digitakt 2 and Digitone 2 tomorrow…

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@FatbeatsKev @mochihead I gave it a try with DT2 master and DN2 slaved, sending “on grid” notes to a DN2 track, arp on.
The arp is quantized 1 step too late (16th note).

The workaround is to shift notes by 1 microtiming value on DT2, as @shigginpit suggested. Possible to shift all notes by holding FUNC in microtiming page…

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Was this newly implemented on the DT II and DN II?

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Since their release I think, at least for DN2. Not present on other Elektrons.

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Thanks for the tip @sezare56!

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Thank you so much @sezare56! That makes sense about the arp being quantized a step too late! I tried microtiming on the Digitakt and it didn’t make a difference for some reason, but I will keep messing with it.

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Negative microtiming ?
Minus 1 sufficed for me, tempo between 90 bpm / 120 iirc.

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FWIW I think this has been an issue for ages and I think it’s on the Digitone (in my case, DT I) side of things as a midi receive issue.

If Digitakt (1 or 2, tried both) is triggering the notes and Digitone is set to arp enabled, the Digitone arp will trigger about a quarter of a trig in.

These days I immediately just sample the arp and call it good, or I actually program the entire arp manually into the Digitakt midi trigs. Whichever is less painful.

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Yeah, this has been an issue with the DN arp for years. Elektron is well aware of it. I feel like we exchanged emails about this 2-3 years ago. I’d be (pleasantly) surprised if they ever do anything about it at this point.

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