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Did I write that? I thought I wrote I could understand with MD, but not with the actual of DTII. I think I have the same opinion as you on transfer speed of DT2, although maybe I feel not that emotionally touched by that characteristic solution :wink:

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Stay below 20.000 files and below 8GB.

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My response was an intellectual assessment, not an emotional one.

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Sorry, didnā€™t want to upset you :wink:

Intellectually: do you agree with me that I agreed with you regarding transfer speed and DTII?

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You havenā€™t upset me. Youā€™re mildly irritating at worst.

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I didnā€™t want to and I didnā€™t - so this is settled. :wink:

You think that transfer speed is inadequate for 2024 but this doesnā€™t affect you emotionally (like anger or disappointment, which would be understandable automatic reactions, if somebody would experience those when confronted with these facts).

I totally agree with you that it is indeed inadequate (slow transfer speed in a device with 20GB storage space) and I wish it would be different. Even more I wish, Elektron would fix the file system bug that corrupts all data and freezes DTII once roughly 20.000 files or 8GB data have been transferred.

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Yes, they all seem to keep quiet when this issue is mentioned, either in threads where they participate in one way or the other or to comments beneath their reviews or feature presentations.

Wonder what could be the reason for that but I donā€™t get very far. All of them are very decent people whom I like a lot and enjoy their contents and discussions.

As mentioned elsewhere: transferring GB of sample data to the DTII should be one of the first things to do, because that huge storage (compared to DT1) is one of the main new feature upgrades.

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Perhaps thereā€™s a bit of fear regarding pointing out things that are showstoppers for many would-be purchasers, else cause sales harm and never, ever get a free bit of kit early again.

And also perhaps in the hurry-to-review people just didnā€™t test particularly deep where uploading samples to it is concerned. Itā€™s one of many features, but definitely one that should have been caught during development and never go out the door, so perhaps there was even an assumption that it just couldnā€™t be broken.

File corruption is a big deal, even if the speed is fine (perhaps there are actually multiple things going on). I care about this more, to be honest.

Iā€™m actually glad mine is another month from arriving at least. If itā€™s not fixed in a reasonable timeframe, before that, Iā€™ll cancel the order and maybe come back if it turns out to actually be fixable.

I have some other sampling/sample-playing machines and they mount as drives and run at whatever speed theyā€™re rated over USB, usually 480, which I still find slow and this seems slower than that, per reports.

Sigh. Weā€™ll see.

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Has Elektron ever had to push out a quick emergency fix? I cant recall a situation like this before

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They pushed out a fix for the crackling audio within a few days. DTII OS 1.0.1A

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Ah ok. I thought that update was ready to go before public launch

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Nerp. 1.0.1 was ready at release to fix bugs. 1.0.1A came out a few days afterwards. It only addressed that one issue. Iā€™m sure the first proper update will squash a lot of these bugs. Happy that Iā€™ve not run into anything so far but I also havenā€™t really been pushing things.

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I noticed a couple of small things but Iā€™ve forgotten what they were as I was ā€˜in the jamā€™ with a friend.

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Given that werp is a rather new feature, I had a startling thought:

Maybe the one single person who had programmed the low level disk access/file system (more than a decade ago) does not work anymore at/for Elektron. :anguished::grimacing:

Could be something like the YK2 bug (still using working ancient code from other eras that wasnā€™t meant to be used that long) - when, suddenly, COBOL programmers had to be urgently searched, found, and convinced to return from retirement to fix that (so the newspapers wrote back then) :flushed::disguised_face::nerd_face::wink:

OT comments on ancient computer technology

Edit: damn, that was a rabbit hole. Now I know (again) so much about 80 columns punch cards, their history, different types and encodings and how COBOL works (they had to enter arithmetic calculations in words?!).

Problem is, I am that old, my brain seems to work a little like Appleā€™s time machine: if something new comes in, something else gets deleted, or an important part, so that the remaining data are incomplete and sometimes useless. :flushed::sweat_smile: (and as with many Apple computers, the amount of memory cannot be altered after configuration in the factory delivery). :nerd_face:

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I wouldnā€™t worry about that. Elektron have survived for 25 years, continuously updating many of their machines, so they must have good software engineering practices. If you have good software engineering practices, then it doesnā€™t matter if people leave - others just pick up the code, learn it, and improve it.

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It is weirdly slow. USB 2 can go much faster than this. Even if you pre-save samples to the correct format this doesnā€™t appear to save any time on the transfer speeds.

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Not to forget, there is now huge and very efficient coding AI models that can help making transitions or understanding and updating legacy code.

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Donā€™t underestimate the talent of Elektron developers and donā€™t overestimate AI

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:+1:

I wonder how much coding-related AI has been trained against low-level DSP ?

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uploading proprietary code to 3rd party data mongers and see it later on pop up on github copilot for every developer out there?

Press X To Doubt

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