Devices (like OT, Koala, POs) that let you suddenly completely change the sound with one button mash!

Doug · 2023-01-03T02:18:52.564Z

The Circuit Rhythm can do this in a few of different ways.

First, there are the grid fx. These are master fx that can be triggered by the pads on the grid fx page. The way that they work is that you’ve got 7 effects–reverse, phaser, beat repeat, auto filter, vinyl, bit crush, and gate. And you’ve got 16 spaces to set up presets. You can trigger all 7 at once if you want. You just can’t trigger two presets for the same effect at once.

Second, you can do direct jumping between projects. So you can have a few versions of the same project with different settings and bounce back and forth between them. This has its issues though. Sometimes you can hear a quick gap in the audio between projects. And if you’ve got different reverb and delay settings you can get a pretty wild fx tail.

The way that the reverb and delay work kind of allow for this too since they work off a preset system. Personally, I don’t like this aspect of it that much because you can’t edit those presets even in the software companion. (Though you can adjust them with an external controller.) But it’s worth mentioning. It’s a thing you can do.

You can also direct jump between patterns. And since you can do parameter locks and lock samples to steps, you can get some pretty big variations.

And even though it’s not an immediate change, you can cue scenes from the same page where you’ve got your track mutes. You do that by pressing pads. And it’s really easy to jump back and forth between all the pages.

I think it’s worth looking into.

And yeah, the Digitakt loopback thing is very cool but it’s a bunch of extra steps to set it up, especially if you want to chop samples at all.

joeykaram · 2023-01-03T02:21:28.089Z

+1 for Drambo

Ryan · 2023-01-03T02:27:24.279Z

Renoise- not a device, but feels like one.

You have a sound list that you can choose from.

Change the 3 to a 4 and you’ve got a different sound.

You even have the ability to have the sound on a separate track which is useful for mixing.

Sorry, every six months I enter a new honeymoon phase with this Tracker/DAW

sinktothesea · 2023-01-03T03:10:14.909Z

Off the top of my head, the Gotharman Spazedrum and the Erica Synths LXR can morph between kits. Korg’s SQ-64 has random and stochastic modes which can seriously change the sound as well. The Vermona Perfourmer can change instantly between mono and poly, two settings each, which can change things drastically. But as for changing the sound completely, I’m not sure about that.

Choopy · 2023-01-03T07:52:30.762Z

Yep M+ have got perform fx and lock features , so you can change your sound with one finger …

kryten42 · 2023-01-03T08:55:47.437Z

It’s sounds like you might want to take a look at this video for the Digitakt, I think somebody on the forum created/posted here somewhere too. Basically you P-Lock scenes to a step(s) and sequence the Digitakt externally, then when you press the P-Locked step it activates the P-Locks for as long as the step is held down. I think it emerged as a hack when Trig preview was introduced [STEP + YES]

[EDIT] - He actually made two videos on it:

Microtribe · 2023-01-03T09:36:48.518Z

And on the DN , mod wheel, PB, AT, Vel Mod, and breath control all have 4 destinations.

This is huge.

darenager · 2023-01-03T11:24:07.672Z

Electribe2/2s can do it with mfx and touchpad.

Automageddon · 2023-01-03T11:32:04.007Z

Akai Force has the crossfader and it has pad scenes.

PineappleDave · 2023-01-03T16:48:19.249Z

I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the SP404. It has several ways of instantly effecting the sound. Arguably, the PO effects (at least on the PO samplers) are based off of the SP.

Tamiko · 2023-01-03T16:52:50.415Z

The Animate buttons on Peak and Summit are pretty nice and can be mapped to any modulatable parameter.

rotallytuined · 2023-01-03T17:27:58.458Z

Nord Lead 4 with the impulse morph buttons and Nords in general with the morph functions…

reeloy · 2023-01-03T17:28:05.543Z

…still love and appreciate ot’s bag of tricks when it it comes to SUDDEN CHANGE…
also a4’s macro performance control options are a killer feature…

also love clavias and lxr’s simple but huuuge morph inbetween functions big time…

but…to be honest…no matter how clever hardware concepts might grow on u, since i can try, on the fly, all the BITs with all the WIGs within fluent total recall but never the less still with heaps of lucky dips and happy accidents still included anyways, whenever i want to, i simply never gonna look back…

Kingtiers · 2023-01-03T17:32:54.218Z

The Polyend/Dreadbox Medusa’s grid can be used to store snapshots of every parameter of the synth.

vasidudu · 2023-01-03T17:59:00.440Z

Same for Maschine
Snapshots. Which can then be morphed over 2 bars (max) between 2 states.

Edit: Snapshots can store preset states from external HW (once routed through the software) and morphing is also available between different saved states (Snapshots).

Funk_Illuminati · 2023-01-03T20:04:38.137Z

So many great options! I’m loving this thread.

Edit: Doug totally sold me on the Circuit Rhythm, especially for the price you can find them used. And Electribe 2s can be found dirt cheap as well.

Funk_Illuminati · 2023-01-03T20:07:45.605Z

Is this a Bitwig recommendation? I’m fascinated by this DAW. I think I’ll have to watch some videos on it now. I keep hearing good things and have yet to decide between Ableton and Bitwig. Time for a deeper dive.

Edit: it is obviously a Bitwig recommendation, no need to answer me.

Tchu · 2023-01-03T20:08:42.824Z

Any Stop buttons for Silence or fading FXs.

Funk_Illuminati · 2023-01-03T20:19:31.646Z

Anybody know if Polyend Play or Polyend Tracker allows for multi tracking into a DAW while using performance mode? Or should I be looking at Maschine+ or something else for that?

reeloy · 2023-01-03T20:40:48.992Z

…yes…totally.

and if ur about to choose a truu next gen daw these days, there’s only ableton OR bitwig…

ableton is the most used daw around the globe…for too many good reasons…

while bitwig is the waaaaay fresher/smarter/straight forward slim lined take on that very same concept…

for less bux and running all three platforms…and because of it’s fresher/younger approach, it runs pretty solid even on outdated cpu’s…their core developer team came from ableton…and since every daw, no matter which one, could profit big time from some basic rewriting of it’s core code after it’s first decade in the market and usually they all fear that step and “better” go for more and more headheavy addon updates instead of new truu integrations…and so did ableton…
which leaded to a “little” breakup and some of their developers took the chance and dare to reinvent and rewrote all the great ableton basics to give birth to the actually smartest and fastest, super complex but dead simple music production software out there to find…bitwig.

and they’re “only” seven years old by now…