[ Templates ] DAW, Overbridge & settings (Mac by me) and (PC by RAFH)

Elektron Software Overbridge
#40

As I wrote to support…

I installed Overbridge and all the necessary requirements for the AH and had it working properly in Studio One 3. I placed it on a track, tweaked the settings and rendered it with the results coming out not well. Then I decided to render it in real time and the results were great, but after I turned off the AH plug in on the initial track and loaded another one on the rendered track, the AH wasn’t processing any sounds. The meter was moving in the plug in but no sound was coming out and it said inactive. I tried connecting it manually and still nothing. Oddly when I switched over to the Overbridge control panel the AH was shown as connected. What do you think the issue is? I also want to mention that I got the Blue screen! It crashed my system twice so far and messed up everything on it both times. My network connections, my waves plug ins licenses are not in the waves manager control panel and now I’m hearing static type sounds through my chain.

On a pc

#41

If you mean Bounced OFFLINE that’s because AH doesn’t support it. it’s physical processing so it’s need to be processed in REAL TIME… That’s why I speaking about 2 audio Tracks one for process, one for resample (REAL TIME) the processed back.

As it’s stated page 20 :
Overbridge plugins do not support offine (non-real-time) rendering/freezing of the arrangement. It only supports real-time rendering. Examples of DAWs that support real-time rendering well are Cubase and Renoise. Most other DAWs only support offine rendering.

but after I turned off the AH plug in on the initial track and loaded another one on the rendered track, the AH wasn’t processing any sounds.

Don’t run multiple instance of Analog HEAT on the same project it will confused the device. Move your plugin where your want to process (Or better SET it up somewhere once and don’t touch it again and send the signal where it is by audio routing option or to an effect track) rather to deactivate and open a new instance of it on another track.

#42

Yes I’m aware and that was exactly the same response the support gave me. I then replied …

Thanks for replying I’m greatly appreciative! As i mentioned earlier with different words, I routed the output to my mixer and recorded the Heat processed track with no problem. It worked, but when I deleted the AH plug in and loaded another instance of the Overbridge, it didn’t work. I was seeing audio passing through the Heats levels but there were no sounds. Also the status said inactive. I then tried to connect it manually through the plug in but that didn’t work. I received a prompt to reconnect the device, so I turned it off to turn it back on, thinking that would work. However when I turned it off I got a blue screen saying sorry something went wrong and the computer sent data to Microsoft I assume. So i reset my computer and it loaded back with my network down and my waves licenses missing. I fixed those issues and went to try AH again with Studio One 3 and I experienced the same thing. The only thing I did differently this time is go into the settings and took off the Overbridge setting. Then I experienced the blue screen again. Idk why it isn’t working now and it was working wonderfully before. Please help! My computer is based around an AMD

Fx8150 with 32gigs of ram running Windows 10 professional. I have a Digigrid IOS as my interface.

Also want to mention that in the Overbridge control panel it said that the AH is connected the same time it said it was inactive within Studio One 3.

#43

Thanks for these Logic templates. Did some more testing and its better but not perfect.
1-Sometime i am missing the first beat when i press play.
2-If my Rytm sequence for exemple is 4 bar long and i start Logic at mesure 3 it loose syncro unless i use the songPos option but then i am missing the first beat.

Anyway thanks alot for all this info, really appreciated.
Bitwig is rock solid on my Mac using Overbridge so i guess Bitwig it is !

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#44

as I said same for me better oberbridge experience on bigwig studio. Anyway when you can set 1 bar or 4 bars zone to let everything going in sync… like you would do with metronome count do it… when all is recorded you can delete that extra part… it should help.

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#45

Studio One 3 was a complete mess on my computer when I tried in the context to elaborate starting template for Elektronauts. It’s crashed thousand times, killed my licenses too… I simply cancel this DAW from my actions the worst experience ever. I completely forget to tell you that. So I think now it should Studio One the problem. Have you tried and experience the same on other DAW. If I were you I download a 30 day Trial of DAW replacement unless you sticked to Studio One 3 for good reason. Sorry to hear your troubles.

@BzNHz Also another thing never activate or deactivate with the DAW plugin window button but always either with OB dedicated button and on the Analog HEAT itself :wink:

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Overbridge + Logic Pro x 10.2.2
#46

Just to let you know that Studio One 3 runs flawlessly and more efficiently than any daw I’ve tried, Bitwig included. Lower latency and better handling of OB. I don’t have Heat tho… I’m on Yosemite still

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#47

Well so I guess Overbridge experience will be very specific to computer, system and devices + software and different for each person ! so we must realized if it’s the case, what a mess it must be for elektron to get something like to the best for everyone… :frowning: incredible.
Maybe you can post your System Specifications and OB recommendations / settings regarding Studio One 3 here @4.33 :wink:

#48

Nothing special - AR and A4 running maximum channel count @ 64 buffer in OB together with 128 buffer on my beat up NI audio komplete 6. I can even more or less comfortably send OB audio to Octatrack and route back to Studio one (which I can’t do in bitwig due to increased latency)

#49

So finally I got Overbridge working in Logic X 10.2.4. I had to mess around a bit with Logic internal audio buffer and working buffer settings. But this gives me a nearly on the grid sync with less latency:

Apple Macbook Pro I5 2,3ghz
4GB RAM
El Capitano

Logic setting:
44.1 or 48 khz
buffer: 256
working buffer: small
audio treads: 4

Overbridge:
buffer: 256
margin: 150
clock mode: song

A4 + AR runing stereo channels into logic … WORKS! :slight_smile:
Not recorded yet nor tried to add some more plugins (delays, eq, etc …) … but you can always add later.
Will do some more tests (incl. additional syncs via USAMO to other gear) over the next days. For me it works now.

BTW … somehow the audio from Overbridge sounds better in Logic than in Ableton :wink:

Cheers and Merry Christmas everyone!

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#50

Logic setting:44.1 or 48 khzbuffer: 256working buffer: smallaudio treads: 4
Overbridge:buffer: 256margin: 150clock mode: song

Yeah according to your system you probably can’t be at Buffer 64 and Safety Margin of 25 But if it’s tight it’s done ! Nice to know this value can’t be TIGHT as well

EDIT : by the way I forgot the utility plugin in my ABLETON template to Sum Dual Mono (hey that’s Ableton not me…) in MONO I will FIX the template … Maybe that’s why Logic sounding better @insect But I remember when I used both I always find audio in logic better. So to Sum Dual Mono from Overbridge in Ableton Live Use the Utility Plugin Set the width on each instance of audio track to 0. Except on each Machine Main Output and Analog HEAT (witch will be better because of delay and reverb FX if you use it) of course we kept the STEREO there !!!

#51

All ABLETON Live template are FIXED (1223 for 2016-12-23)

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Edit : Bitwig seem to working exactly the same as Ableton Live for Mono/Stereo there’s a utility called Tool too…
I will investigate Logic and Bitwig Template to see if I set proper MONO and Proper STEREO (including the mess with all Bus in Logic Pro X to make things working as expected)

#52

Analog FOUR :
Main L + Main R = STEREO
Synth Trk1 = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)
Synth Trk2 = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)
Synth Trk3 = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)
Synth Trk4 = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)
Ext in L + Ext in R = STEREO

Analog RYTM :
Main L + Main R (input or output) = STEREO
Main FX L + Main FX R (Output) = STEREO
BD = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)
SD = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)
RS-CP = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)
BT = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)
LT = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)
MT-HT = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)
CH-OH = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)
CY-CB = MONO (need an Ableton utility or Bitwig tool plugin set the WIDTH = 0%)

Analog HEAT :
Analog input L + Analog input R = STEREO
FX Return L + FX Return R = STEREO
Analog output L + Analog Output R = STEREO
FX Send L + FX Send R = STEREO

#53

All BITWIG Studio template are FIXED (1223 for 2016-12-23)
with a Bigwig Tool width to 0% on every MONO TRACK and nothing changed on STEREO one’s

#54

All Logic Pro X template are FIXED (1223 for 2016-12-23)
Every Bus was verified they now set as it needed to be. Main outs and EXT in as STEREO, every individual as MONO

#55

SO I’ve just realized that some people used Overbridge by setting on top of that the device as an AUDIO CARD. And get their AUDIO STREAM by the soundcard so they can actually record MONO in ABLETON LIVE but to me it’s completely at the COST of the Latency. BY Recording your STREAM via the PLUGIN you have way more tightness in the SYNC ! Of course you get Dual MONO and need to set it up a Utility plugin or a Bigwig tool to get the Signal then WIDTH to 0% (meaning MONO) but it’s WAY more accurate to me

SO WHAT ABOUT YOU ??? What’s your favorite WAY to GET your STREAM ?

#56

Finally I take a little bit of time for the Screencast to explain more… it will be post after Christmas but you have it all to download before Christmas as I engage myself to. I’m not sure that the settings automatically recall when you open up the template so read for each DAW the settings I used to in the beginning of the POST.

Have nice Christmas with your family, wife, girlfriend, childs ! EVERY ELEKTRONAUTS !

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#57

thanks for your work @William_WiLD! I didn´t test my settings with your Logic template, but will do this the next days and report to the Elektronauts. Merry Christmas for you and your familly too! :slight_smile:

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#58

I updated every template so normally every signal should be fine for MONO and STEREO :wink:
Merry X-Mas @insect too THANKS

#59

This looks great & thanks for all the hard work. Anyone got a template for Cubase? Just like to see how it looks & works. I have started planning how I will be setting one up with A4, AR and AH plus a few extra channels through an interface but still waiting for the AR to arrive so I imagine I won’t be able to finalise it. Many thanks if anyone willing to share
Best wishes

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