Creating sample chains in the box

yoof · 2014-09-11T06:32:32.000Z

Hi Octatrackers,

I’d like to try to create my own sample chains in the box. What I was hoping to do was:

[ol]
[li]Place trigs across the pattern on one track, eg, one trig every four 1/16 notes across four bars.[/li]
[li]Place a recording trig on the first note in the pattern.[/li]
[li]Enter live recording mode.[/li]
[li]Press play and tweak lots of params until I have interesting and varied versions of my sample on each of my trigs.[/li]
[li]Then slice my recording into seperate samples.[/li]
[li]Save as file with all the settings etc.[/li]
[/ol]

I’m pretty sure this must be possible, but I can’t work out how to set up the recorder trig such that it plays for exactly four bars and then stops (ie, to make it easier to slice later).

Any pointers?

Cheers

rikrak · 2014-09-11T07:11:53.000Z

Set record length to 64 steps and make the Record Trig a one-shot.

William_WiLD · 2014-09-11T07:12:22.000Z

Hello. Why you not did that on a computer ? probably simplest and fastest no ?

rikrak · 2014-09-11T07:14:05.000Z

[quote=““William WiLD””]
Hello. Why you not did that on a computer ? probably simplest and fastest no ?

[/quote]

No! MUCH faster in the box!

yoof · 2014-09-11T07:20:45.000Z

Perfect @rikrak, many thanks.

@WilliamWILD - mainly because I’m doing the Facebook challenge in the other thread (everything has to be in the box), but also to avoid the extra faff if I’ve just got the Octatrack on my lap.

MK7 · 2014-09-11T08:37:29.000Z

Recording preferences are your friend. Set recording length to 64 to record 4 bars, or set it to max and adjust the length in the memory config menu to make 8 bars, 16 bars, or whatever recordings. In the memory config menu, you set a recording length in seconds, but it also displays the amount of trigs that these seconds correspond to. Due to rounding to integers in the choice of seconds, you have to choose an appropriate tempo. My usual choice is 128 for this kind of operations. I have a project with pattern and all settings prepared, but no samples chosen, which I first save to another location when creating a chain. In this case, you don’t have to delete the samples from the flex slots when you want to create another chain. Adding samples to slots is a quick procedure, when they are contained in the same folder or just a few folders.

Creating standard sample chains in the OT is straight-forward, but it might be faster on a computer. Things change, however, when you record modulations/p-locks/etc into your chains, as you seem to be doing… Then it’s still not as fast as on a computer, but you make use of the OT’s impressive sound-sculpting and modulation capabilities.

My favorite choice on the computer, btw, is renoise! There you can set up a standard pattern which applies to all sample chains, but you just replace the samples in the sample manager. drag in other samples, and they get placed in patterns as previously defined. you can also add modulations. This corresponds to replacing Flex Slots in the OT as described above, except that it’s easier to scroll/click through folders.

CH3OH · 2014-09-11T14:08:30.000Z

""rikrak"":

Set record length to 64 steps and make the Record Trig a one-shot.

this.
for longer sample chains (more than one pattern long) use manual sampling: TRIG:ONE2, RLEN:MAX, QREC:PLEN.

MK7 · 2014-09-11T17:46:41.000Z

""CH3OH"":

[quote=“rikrak”]Set record length to 64 steps and make the Record Trig a one-shot.

this.
for longer sample chains (more than one pattern long) use manual sampling: TRIG:ONE2, RLEN:MAX, QREC:PLEN.[/quote]
This!
I was thinking too complicated with those memory settings. Just set QREC to PLEN, of course!
(+1 @ QREC B****es thread.)

glaciertree · 2014-09-12T13:04:07.000Z

If you had to use the ot’s sample editor to manually splice together different samples into a chain, I think that might be painful.

@MK7
I think this is what will work out best for me as well. I think that capturing sample chains of gear that is controlled by MIDI will probably work pretty well within the OT.

I have been meaning to do this with a few things and still haven’t gotten around to it.

Actually, I think you have pointed out something cool. To me, this is probably the easiest way of creating sample chains in the OT.