Correct Tuning of Rytm


#21

Williams table works great for newer machines. The thing is, for the older machines the values come out slightly different between calibrations on the same Rytm, while the newer ones always calibrate the same…
In general: table is ballpark for older machines and will get you close but you may need to adjust and possibly add lfo tuning trick to get exact. Table works great for newer machines(and maybe some of the old ones like cowbell)…


#22

I make the Tune Table x3 times on older machines. At each step I recalibrate and I have the exact same values… But as a matter of fact it’s analog so every machine can be slightly different. And probably less accurate on those old machine which was BDCL, BDHD and BDFM…

Except if your machine behave like or more or less like mine… in this case the Table should be close.


#23

I think you did great making the table… When I was testing it was the ones you mentioned that came out different, BDHD, BDCL, BDFM… One of these days I’ll do some more testing and I would like to find out if maybe it’s just my Rytm that behaves this way before my warranties over…
I guess YMMV… My warranties over in 6 months so I’ll have a complete evaluation done sometime by then…

I’m interested to know if any users get different tuning values for old machines in between calibrations, ie let the rytm warm up for hours in a stable environment with good power, calibrate and check tuning, then calibrate again and check tuning, my BDHD for example would vary by up to 50cents(1/2 a semi tone)…


#24

Have you investigate your test in higher range of note firstly, then progressively to the lower note. Because lower note (I mean really low) is very difficult to analysed. Therefore, if there’s 2 increments between note on 2 octave high (for example C3 to C5) there’s no reason that range is exactly the same lower… but your spectrum should be hard to read on C0 per example because of the energy. Melodyne is more accurate at the contrary. (for reading purpose)


#25

This stuff drives me nuts but I would love to get to the bottom of it, one of these days, because I’m sensitive to tunings and have had to re-adjust slightly all my kick drums for every pattern after calibration…
Could just be my Rytm.
Thanks for the suggestions.
I’ll report back next time I dive into this but right now it’s definitely on a back burner…
I’ll feel silly if I find its just my Rytm but at least this has helped me to figure it out, and if mines like that probably some others are as well…


#26

Honestly if all the other machines track well and calibration doesn’t change something for all, I really not sure your RYTM as a problem at all. Support told me as it’s Analog, it should be slight difference between each hardware so if I were you I would not be worry that much. (but you can always open a ticket to investigate further… if calibration make the behavior of old machines different at each calibration)


#27

Thanks. So if I’m reading this correctly you just use the tuning knob and not the LFO trick mentioned above? How did you fine tune? Or was it not neccessary?


#28

In chromatic mode, for example if I tuned my BD at D, second pad in chromatic mode will follow and in that case will play d#?


#29

Any News about an upgrade to fix this bug? Playing Toms are terrible at the moment.


#30

Is this solved in MK2?


#31

Hey guys, is this problem maybe solved in mk2?? Im just to produce some trap music and its ultra important to play bass on 808-like kicks.


#32

The Mk1 and Mk2 are basically identical (except the ability to sample)
Only the later (track)machines added after initial Mk1 have had attention to tuning to help here

Given that there was a legacy mode added after a modest tweak to FX send levels which was forced … I’d be surprised if they’d be re-tuning toms as they are because it would affect user patterns - that’s not to say they couldn’t consider a way to have a second Tom engine which helped out here a bit, who knows, but it’s more realistically a FR


#33

Thank you for your reply. So as I understand, the newer kicks, like f.ex. „Silk” shall stay in tune in chromatic mode?


#34

There were quite a few newer machines which were absolutely usable in that way, they made awesome mono bass and leads to be honest long before teh DVCO was added - there’s a hefty amount of discussion about which machines folk liked in this regard round about the time either 1.2 > 1.3 came out with those particular updates - but it was clear that concert pitch was factored in

Only thing to note is that the coarse tuning is done in quarter tones when done by locking synth tune (so 24 is one octave, 2 is one semitone etc) but they play chromatically in that mode or via midi

Some of those weighty low sounds from the AR really outshine the A4 albeit that the synthesis is much much simpler - the toms are essentially resonant filters it’s maybe a bit harder to make those voice circuits play nicely the way folk want at least as they’re implemented here


#35

Thank you so much!! :v:t2::v:t2::v:t2::v:t2::v:t2::v:t2::v:t2:


#36

Anyone know for sure which machines are playable chromatically?


#37

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