Cool idea for the performance macros

sicijk · 2014-04-29T18:50:56.000Z

+1

this method also would lead to long lasting buttons…too many presses to perform a Performance setting…

TrabanT · 2014-04-29T21:26:03.000Z

+1

chapelierfou · 2014-04-29T21:35:26.000Z

+1. Performances are so cool but i admit i hate setting them up.

Deep_Cycle · 2014-04-29T21:40:10.000Z

The most underused part of my A4 by a mile, any attempt to speed up the setup time gets a big

I always tell myself ill go back to set up any parameter changes i like but never do, theres gotta be some virtual mould growing in my pref menus by now, long time since i even bothered. I think not using and relying on them for major changes from the beginning has helped me better navigate and evolve patterns with some degree of confidence a bit quicker than i would have otherwise , taking em somewhere new each time, some good, most terrible & disturbing

SB-SIX, your idea sounds like a more natural/fluid way of setting up the macros, lfo’s and envelopes, the more i think about it the better it sounds, sweet!

I hope if Elektron ever do decide to add better functionality to the macros it’s not restricted to Overbridge and a computer.

Deep_Cycle · 2014-04-29T21:51:37.000Z

""helloliamdaly"":

It would also be handy to have some of the trig buttons become macro “scenes” in performance view so you could quickly tap or A/B between snapshots of your performance macros

This would be mighty, ape shit mode!

noxical · 2014-05-05T18:13:07.000Z

This is great topic. I hear some great potential for improving the performance mode of the A4. Switching between performance mode is basically already possible because performance modes are saved with kits.

I try to work a lot in performance mode so I can instantly play the instrument. Setting it up is definitely time consuming and therefore I made some kind of a template/standard settings and stick to it, this improves your hand-ability with the unit, get familiar and better with the device. Also you can easily copy to other kits without being afraid of over-pasting.

Template:
use knob A for track A
use knob B/G for track B
use knob C/H for track C
use knob D/I for track D
use knob E/J for track FX
use knob F for all tracks

For the FX track E/J…I normally put delay gain on E and HP filter on F…to wash the sound.

For each track I use mainly frequency 1+2 and some reverb. But Also just what suits the sounds best for the kit/sound.

I other people have nice template ideas, please share…

Cheers

SB-SIX · 2014-05-12T13:13:23.000Z

Just got reply from HQ:

“We have similar ideas already, but more like how performance is set up on Analog Rytm. A future OS will provide more convenience for this on Analog Four. Stay tuned.”

Cool!

fachperson · 2014-05-12T13:38:51.000Z

I’ve been thinking of the same lately. Right now I’m using the macros mostly for filter and relative volume control.

It would be nice to have a switch telling whether macro changes are recordable or not. Right now, if you want to record e.g. filter changes, you have to launch the filter menu and then the two filters can only be altered separately. With recordable perf macros, this would be much easier.

Alternatively, the second row of macro controllers could by defautl be set to ‘recordable’

Low_Life · 2014-05-12T15:36:53.000Z

""SB-SIX"":

Just got reply from HQ:

“We have similar ideas already, but more like how performance is set up on Analog Rytm. A future OS will provide more convenience for this on Analog Four. Stay tuned.”

Cool!

So how’s performance set up on the RYTM, then?

Petur · 2014-05-13T08:09:43.000Z

""SB-SIX"":

Just got reply from HQ:

“We have similar ideas already, but more like how performance is set up on Analog Rytm. A future OS will provide more convenience for this on Analog Four. Stay tuned.”

Cool!

Great news!

SB-SIX · 2014-05-13T08:54:42.000Z

[quote=““Low Life””]

[quote=“SB-SIX”]Just got reply from HQ:

“We have similar ideas already, but more like how performance is set up on Analog Rytm. A future OS will provide more convenience for this on Analog Four. Stay tuned.”

Cool!
[/quote]

So how’s performance set up on the RYTM, then?[/quote]
Haha I really don’t know, I hope to get my AR this week. Anyone knows how this works on the AR?

adrianskye · 2014-05-15T03:13:38.000Z

AR doesn’t have performance knob macros but scene and performance settings on pads. The difference is scenes change all the perameters you have locked when you hit the scene, which holds and can only run one at a time. Performance are pressure sensitive perameter changes and you can hold multiple pads at a time. Scenes and performance are on different pad pages so you can’t toggle at the same time nor mute tracks etc that I can tell which is somewhat annoying because being able apply effects than mute/unmute some tracts at the same time would be great and is a benefit of having performance macro knobs. I would probably trade the pad performance for knob performance in fact.

I do believe setting up the macros to be much easier . You select the pad to edit and navigated track perameters and fiddle with them to lock them into the macro-however keep in mind the modulation possibilities are far fewer than on A4 which is also why it doesn’t feel so tedious.

I just made some amazing perfect macros for a track last night. 1 knob especially did some space effect sounds I’ve never heard. Turned on my machine today and enjoyed them some more then changed my pattern. Guess what. I didn’t save my damn kit and now I will never know exactly what made up that macro : / always save the kit

sicijk · 2014-05-15T06:48:33.000Z

^ an Elektron Story…

SB-SIX · 2014-05-15T08:55:51.000Z

Ok so I’m really curious how they are going to implement this on the A4. The workflow is possible on the AK because of the pads, so lets see what they come up with then…

sicijk · 2014-05-17T06:04:11.000Z

^ yeah…but on A4 there are also those unlit buttons after the MUTE ones…

as Avantronica suggested a while ago…those can become the scenes,or snapshots…

OHEXOH · 2014-05-17T08:04:25.000Z

This is a great UI idea, especially as it can work for LFO and the ENV too. I really hope they implement more than just PERF.

+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1

Naboo · 2014-05-17T09:20:50.000Z

""sicijk"":

^ yeah…but on A4 there are also those unlit buttons after the MUTE ones…

as Avantronica suggested a while ago…those can become the scenes,or snapshots…

The trig buttons storing macro values as snapshots would be immense!

CallOffTheVote · 2016-04-15T10:10:52.000Z

Anyone ever hear any more on the scenes/refined performance macro workflow on AK/A4? Sounds like elektron were definitely planning something in this area from that email reply mentioned, but this threads quite old so I’m ondering if they already tweaked things before I (recently) grabbed AK and it’s already a part of the OS as is?

invisible_acropolis · 2016-04-15T20:20:58.000Z

""noxical"":

Template:
use knob A for track A
use knob B/G for track B
use knob C/H for track C
use knob D/I for track D
use knob E/J for track FX
use knob F for all tracks

I always do it pretty similar… any time you have performance macros or knob settings etc, to program it really helps to maintain a system of organization so you dont have to try to remember a specific setup for a specific track
i always assign 2 knobs per track (vertically), then the last 2 knobs for master fx/big changes/whatever
so you always know the first two will hit track 1, second row hits track 2, etc.
you may not know exactly what happens to those tracks (thats something i program specifically per kit), but at least you know what will be affected
but yeh, setting them up could definitely be easier / benefit from some alternate methods

phesago · 2016-04-23T13:33:29.000Z

Well as I was reading this “i wish you could assign parameters with eprf mode like on the AR” and it seems they are in that mindset as well. If your in perf mode or scene mode on AR, you can still see the normal menu, but with a side screen on the left showing you what perf slot your in, and you can make locks that way. This would make the perf mode on the a4 baller as fuck