Controlling scenes with midi?


#1

Hey AR buddies,

I was hoping someone could shed some light into what I need to do to control scenes using the pads of a old Trigger Finger I have laying around.

Using a knob I can get the active scene to scroll through all 12 but I can’t figure out how to get them to be engaged. Ideally I would like to hit a pad on the TF and have it activate the scene that parallels that pad on the AR.

Thank you very much, we appreciate your time.


#2

FYI, I figured it out. In case anyone finds this thread and is confused.

CC92 is the midi and within that the pad on/off is tied to the first 12 velocity transmissions.


#3

Nice, thanks! I had been assigning a fader on my FaderMaster Pro to CC92 and just scrolling through them. The velocity trick will help for other controllers.


#4

Wait, are you saing that triggering a midi note externally with a velocity of 1-12 (from any midi channel?) will activate scenes 1-12?!

If so this is brilliant!


#5

Yes indeed. I ended up assigning it to the trigger finger sliders instead so I would have a visual cue as to what was active since there are no LEDs. Basically I have 4 sliders with 3 velocities assigned to each so I can slide from bottom to middle to top to trigger scenes. It is easy to hit your position and you can switch scenes super fast.

Then the pads I use for performance triggers. This leaves the RYTM fairly open for mutes and I have 8 dials in the TF I could assign to something… But I am going to get cozy with what I have set up now. It really opens up the performance side of the machine.

I have another program on the TF that is set up for finger drumming. The pads are wayyyyy more responsive than the AR.

Next up I want to perfect a 3rd program on the TF for assigning each pad to trigger a slice in a sample chain is velocity mod, effectively I can turn one single track into a multi-sample spread. I got the sample start working decent by assigning the velocity mod but for now am just using amp decay to make the sample chain just play one hit. I think I need to assign the sample end to be velocity based as well because I am getting little clicks and such.

I got this idea from someone on this board. Does anyone have advice on setting this up?

Also, big up Adam Jay for pointing out the benefits of sample chains.


#6

I will not answer to your question but give my way to control scene. I use the Arturia Beatstep, and I configured the pads to send CC92 with fix data.

12 pads toggle between 0 - x, where X correspond to CC92 value of the scene.

More over, I use the encoder to control perf, which is way easier to configure.


#7

++ for the beatstep. This works great with the rytm.

I have set the scene on gate instead of toggle and than select X - X.

This way you only have to hit the pad once for activating the pad.


#8

Excellent stuff, can you do similar with perf mode pressure on trigger finger pads?


#9

Could anyone help me out achieving this with Ableton?
I have some scenes set up and would like to use automation in arrangement to trigger different scenes on my Rytm.

I can configure Mutes and Performance but not Scenes.

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#10

Use a max lfo


#11

You didn’t understand. I can’t configure Scene button to be available in this window, like Mutes and Performances are.

Tnx anyway


#12

No idea fella.


#13

Anyone has an idea how to map Scenes in Ableton?


#14

I don’t use Ableton, but I control scenes from the OT using cc 92…
Values 1-12 select scene 1-12, 0 disables all scenes, any value over 12 doesn’t do anything…
Maybe that info will help, I don’t know…


#15

I’m not understanding how to employ this velocity method…
Since it’s a cc, how is the velocity related? Or what note are you sending?
Thanks…


#17

I can’t wait to use it too with a 120 sample chain, unfortunately I don’t have one on board.
I guess it suffice to assign START to Velocity Mod. I hope it also works with END, with a +1 offset compared to START…that way loops would be possible.
Any more infos on that?


#18

Only one scene can be employed at a time. Therefore with CC92 value 1 is scene 1, value 2 is scene 2 and so on.

Good fun.