Confused with Track Volume handling and effects

I havent used the internal effects so far but started a new patten today and wanted to play around with some reverb stuff. But the reverb was not hearable at all. Than i noticed that the reverb for example is really only hearable when the Track Volume is turned up to allmost maxmimum.

I like to have all my Track Volumes set to 60-90 and the Master Volume on Max. because i want to save some headroom for other much more quieter sounds than the Bassdrums. But in this case the signal for the effects seems to be too low.

And whats the differnce between Track Volume and AMP Volume anyway?

Did you check that reverb volume is tunred up on both the ā€˜amp’ screen and the ā€˜reverb fx’ screen?

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yap its all set to maximum.
As i sad i dont understand why the effects dissapear when i turn the track volume down. I would understand this to happen if turn the amp volume of the track down but not the overall track volume.

it’s scaling send levels further down when reducing volume.

@selvi: yes i allready figured out the point with the synth volume. But thats not working for me because the colour of sound really changes a lot when turning down the synth volume. Especially when the track runs through Distortion. What makes perfect sense for me.

Damn it i really like the reverb. Loks like i should overthink the whole way im working this machine :slight_smile:

Do you have reverb pre distortion ?

yes i have

Ive been using the AR running into the OT for a lil while now.
Since I’m just a bedroom producer kind of guy, naturally I turn my volumes up all over the place, don’t fully understand compression, and struggle with discerning ā€œloudā€ from quality.

So recently I went through 6 banks and turned the amp volume, synth/sample vol, and track volumes back to 80. I quickly realized this was way to low, especially with the RYTM effects.
So I went back through and for most pads raised the synth/sample and amp volumes to 100, (where function+ snaps them too), leaving track volumes at 80, raising some here and there.
I dialed in ā€œlighterā€ comp setting and used the makeup gain to get the volume I want going to the OT.

Things have actually started to sound better, however now I want a prominent washed out reverb on a single hit, and it’s barely audible.
I’m so confused by RYTMs effects volumes.

Can someone break it all down for me?
What volumes affect what?
I’ve scoured the forums for answers and still have not found an elaborate yet simple answer.

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Yeah I’d like to know this too. The way the effect volume works is definitely a little quirky!

I’ve done tons of work on a current project and it’s definitely sounding much better, still though, I cant stand how low the effects are, especially when compared to the A4.

Digging up an old thread - I’ve recently bought the MK2 after being without an AR for a long time. The amp volume feeds the effects sends - that makes sense, but the track volume seems to be pre-amp, and if you drop it, you need to re-up those sends.

The manual has a signal path diagram, but doesn’t indicate where the track volume is on that path - is it the mixer section? (which would be post effects sends, and it certainly doesn’t sound so.)

Has anyone figured this out?