There needs to be a Tonverk vs Bento thread, which is more apples-to-apples IMO. A Tonverk next to an OT would make sense, but next to a Bento might be redundant
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Yes. Machines are set per track, per pattern. So track 1, in pattern A01, could be a Subtrack machine with a set of drum samples. Track 1 in pattern A02 could have a Multisample machine with a piano multisample. Track 1 in pattern A03 could have a Multisample machine with a synth multisample. It’s entirely up to you.
I, and I’d imagine others, try to keep the drum samples (at least) in the same track from pattern to pattern, mainly so I can remember what’s where.
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Great explanation, thanks, it is great to know that. The only only think that I miss in Elektron sequencers, I guess it’s not implemented here, I need to study further the manual, is random note within a scale. Is one of the best features if not the best for me in a sequencer. But… I can live without that. I’m sure I’ll buy TV next year thanks to all of you.
On the TV every note can have a condition (not per trig, per note). This allows you have a scale or chord that plays notes based on those conditions.
A cool example of this is that on a mono track you can stack notes in a scale and have it set to 100% for the bottom note, and have 3 higher notes set to 25%. The top notes will be evaluated first by default (and you can change that in the mono note priority to choose which notes are preserved: lowest, highest, or last which is the default).
This gives you generative melodies on a single track with control over how often each note plays. The 100% on the bottom note ensures that when all the 25% notes are false that something plays, but you could also set the bottom note to a % so that it plays nothing when they are all false. You can do the same thing with chords on a polyphonic track where each note has a condition, but I find the mono version to be particularly fun to explore.
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This is great. It’s a lot of randomisation on notes. Only thing I don’t understan is “false”. So in a mono track you could stack notes and set each note wth a different probability, and same with chords. That’s amazing and a level of control supreme. Thanks.
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By “false” I just mean when the condition or probability is evaluated and it is NOT “true”.
For example you set a note to 25% probability of playing. This means 75% of the time it won’t play (what I am calling “false”), and it will play 25% of the time (aka “true”).
Worth noting that you have conditions (like 4:4, 2:2, etc) AND probability (50%, 25%, etc). Those can be used together on each note. I tend to just say “conditions” to mean both of those.
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AHH ok. All clear. Thanks 
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I’d add to your list the possibilities that sub tracks with up to 256 steps each plus conditions offer: Subtracks - Use Cases - #14 by Azzarole
This should mean you can program crazy long and varied drum patterns within just a single pattern, while still having seven whole tracks left for whatever you want to put on them, with their own track length respectively. I think this should make the whole “working within one box” approach a lot more useable in practice than on any other Elektron, despite seemingly only eight tracks. Especially if you build tracks within TV step by step via resampling patterns to sub tracks.
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Rytm would be good combo also.
I was thinking Rytm MKII plus Tonverk as I already have a the Rytm and was thinking of going the DT2 + DT2 route but I really don’t want to sell the RYTM and just adding a Tonverk I think it would be more than enough of a combo to make great stuff Since I can already make decent stuff with just a RYTM.
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Gives you a few options the ST doesn’t:
- you can route up to 2 Dual VCO machines (or any other single outs) through separate effects chains in TV (once the latency is down to acceptable levels)
- you can route TV audio through the Rytm’s analog compressor via the external input
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Indeed… Definitely nice having the individual outs. 
Should come in handy with the effect routing in the Tonverk.
Excellent work. Holy cow
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I have a digitakt 2 and soon will have a Toneverk, it will replace my Torso S4 which I have sold recently. But, my question is does it make any sense to keep toneverk and digitakt 2?
Wondering the same …
I sold my OT and AR2 after Tonverk arrived. I mildly regret selling the OT but zero regrets about doing all my drums in Tonverk. And it’s superior to DT as far as melodic sounds and sequencing goes. Depends how wedded you are to being able to use grid slicing. That’s the only thing Tonverk doesn’t have compared to DT but you can still make as many slices just the method is different, more deliberate than relying on happy accidents.
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Depends on what you use DT2 for.
If you are into looping and slicing, it might be worth it. Or consider a Blackbox as companion for the TV, that‘s a lot cheaper.
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I’m considering adding a Tonverk to my DT+OT combo. What’s the latest on the midi latency issue? On paper everything else seems good, but noticeable latency would be a dealbreaker for me
there’s a flow with dt2 that I just don’t get with tonverk. like im making patterns without even thinking about it.
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I think so, even if it is a kind of hack using recorders, it can be an fx bus with feedback.