Chopping breaks on mac m1

Don’t know either but it’s probably pretty old school

I might have been unclear, i was referring to MPC Beats, the free DAW. You can absolutely do it in Logic but AFAIC the workflow/functionality is a bit basic compared to MPC, when it comes to slicing/exporting/mangling etc. I think it comes down to personal needs and preferences, and if OP feels like learning a completely new environment or to just get it done in Logic :slight_smile:

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ah yes I understand, As you said, when it comes to creative work with samples, MPC is of course a specialized tool. Since it’s free, try it or leave it.

Logic is certainly not perfect, and I personally prefer Cubase/Live. I’m pretty sure you can do everything and more in Logic that you could do with MPC Beats.

The question is does the OP want to work with Logic?

yeah im open minded at the moment
ive got an atari st, yamaha a4000, jx3p, two roland sh09s for the hardware side of things

my mother is going away on holiday so im going to be staying at hers for 7 days to look after her cat with just a macbook m1 laptop and an android phone for entertainment. already got flstudio, logic, will have to try serato sample demo and the mpc software for choppage.

id like to make a track with the atari and yamaha a4000, i did try, the built in sine wave worked well as bass but i found my drum samples were a bit shit, chopped in audacity. starting out in logic or flstudio might be the best thing to do. a lot of d&b is about sample choice i guess.

my background is making acid tracks on old roland gadgets for the most part. i know what an amen and a helicopter break is but dont have much experience with breaks or drum and bass. someone recommended the stranjah channel to me before, migth check that out too.

thanks for all the tips and advice, software recommendations

btw i spent all my months money on a korg poly 800 and a jx3p controller so im looking for solutions that dont cost extra money. no piracy though. just legit stuff

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does adobe put spyware in their software? i still have roland cloud demo artefacts on my computer though the demo has run out. rolands sound good but the damned spyware is annoying

For non-MIDI chops, one idea is to drop a sample in an audio track and put it through BeatBreaker in Logic. You can resequence the audio a bit and chop it non-destructively. Or do the chops to transients in Quick Sampler, add an arp for randomness and then put Beatbreaker on top of that.

Can you for example tap in your slice points in real-time in Logic? Can you create programs, quickly duplicate your pads/slices, repitch, stretch and process them differently, all non destructively? ;D

I really considered Logic the last time I invested in a DAW a while back, but the whole sample program thing feels tacked on to me, it always did.

I went with Ableton and haven’t looked back, and use MPC in hardware form.
Ableton Drum Racks are super powerful and modular. But in my opinion, even Ableton doesn’t come close to the workflow and speed of MPC, when it comes to chopping/creating and managing sample programs. But I guess that’s not so surprising since the whole platform is based around it :slight_smile:

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I use simpler in ableton to chop breaks (or really anything). It’s really handy especially since once you make the chops you just right click and save to drum rack. Then you can click “show in finder” and you have a bunch of individual chops to load right there in a folder.

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I used it in the past. It’s quite good. If I remember correctly, it’s the modern descendant of Cool Edit Pro, which was one of the best in the 90s :D.

From what I remember, Audition is a bit clunky if you wanted to swiftly edit one file, but pretty good if you have a lot of edits, renames, processing to do. I think the last time I used it I was preparing audio for a film soundtrack (on an audio engineering course I was taking).

I currently use DSP Quattro, but I can’t recommend it for this job. It’s just too annoying to use.

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cooledit 1 im really familiar with, cooledit 2 had some cool features like convolution where you take a sample of your voice going aaaaah for a second then you use that against white noise sample for 10 seconds, then it generates an ambient style aaaaahh sound out of your voice. is there something modern or in logic that does that?

This is the main reason I didn’t buy it years ago.


goldie’s old 1993 setup is so minimal
atari st, s950, mixer, controller keyboard

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I can see you don’t like taking the easy route… why not use an old Atari sample editor… there are loads of them :nerd_face:

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Looks like Rob Playford (engineer/producer on Timeless, and head of Moving Shadow Records), had a bit more gear: ROB PLAYFORD: Producing Goldie.

photek has good choppage skills, his drum programming is fantastic. 90s dj zinc has to be my favourite though, there’s something about the variations that keep the tracks interesting.

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The ultimate skill in chopping breaks has been for me always the late 90s Paradox.

Besides the obvious Photek, Source Direct/Hokusai …

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paradox’s setup is really humble

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The Inner City Life single came out in 1994. I definitely heard it promo’d on the radio long before the single release arrived. I can imagine they were working on it in '93 or really early '94. I’m certain it wasn’t “five years” later.

From my perspective, Inner City Life was the moment jungle/d&b became something else. It was so radically different from everything in the scene around the time. It’s probably the song that had the strongest impact on me on first listen, ever… so I trust my memory of it quite well. I couldn’t move… .transfixed on my radio for however long Pete Tong let it play for… I spent weeks searching for this elusive 20-min record…

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With the things you have and your time frame, you already have the best setup to have fun. I’d save up for a DT1/2 in the long term, it’ll go well with your synths :grinning:

…since all their software products run on monthly or yearly subscription rental models, u can be sure they have some constant calling home thing implemented…will not be that poorly impleemented as rolands first try on all this, i’d say…but even given the fact, that i can’t speak of any own experience, i’d expect adobe to be way more experienced here and therefor even more annoying/evil…but that’s just me…no such code companies on my computers ever…

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