Chase Bliss effects pedals

I might make a live-stream :smiley:

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For me, it’s a happy accident machine; something for improvising with, or for creating samples. It makes sounds I probably wouldn’t get any other way. You have to get pretty lucky with timing the microloops. I tried setting up Octatrack to do what mood does, as an anti-GAS strategy, and found it too static and not fun. I caved into GAS and got the Mood. I find its most interesting sounds come when recording with Time set towards one pole, but then playing back with it altered quite a lot away from that (Sampling 101!!). And animating (manually or ramping) some of the controls.

Having said all this… I’ve heard some of your ā€œcurrent soundsā€, @LyingDalai, and you’re already more adventurous and creative than me. Also, I definitely have a lot more to learn about the OT. So, maybe I like Mood as a short-cut, where for you it’s just not enough.

I’m enjoying Habit more at the moment. The surprise element of its auto-scan control is so fun.

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My personal breakthrough with the Mood MkII was using the web-based editor that a kind human built for it. Once I did that, it allowed me to get a lot deeper into the pedal. The editor provided me with a fluid way to save presets and name them and it’s ability to randomly generate patches opened up a lot of possibilities that I simply never would’ve happened upon if I was manually tweaking the pedal. It also helped me setup and explore explore midi clocking the pedal, which has provided the biggest change in overall usefulness for me.

Editor: MOOD MKII Editor
Setup Directions: Pedalzombie - Editors and User Interfaces for Chase Bliss Pedals
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TGP Thread: MOOD MKII Editor - Editors for Chase Bliss Pedals | The Gear Page

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Is this Mood or Mood MKII?
MKII has so many features that I wish Mood had, but haven’t made the upgrade
Specifically MIDI playing of the sample is soooo cool, I was trying to do this before MKII was announced with a SP-303 at the end of my rig, live sampling/recording

I have Mood, haven’t used MKII, but I love my Mood
Use a combination of Tape/Stretch mode and Reverb/Slip the most
Record sounds and save them for sequencing/sampling

OBNE EXP Ramper controlling the clock is crucial for me, being able to set the A point and B point and choose how fast I can switch between. Been looking at the CooperFX expression pedal, seems like a more featured OBNE

(Mood II)

I’ll look into this.

What do you use to control the midi side of the Mood II?

The editor has all of the controls on-screen.

For physical control I’ve purchased and messed with the MorningStar MC6Pro MkII (I’m a guitarist, foot-based controllers while playing make the most sense for me), but the programming side of it is a little challenging for my brain and available time, so I’m making slow progress.

I’ll post the video that keeps me coming back to it. This guy make the CB pedals sing with this controller. There’s a ton of utility in there one you break the control set out a bit more, imho.

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I’ve had excellent fun and results using MIDI tracks on Digitone (conditional trigs on latching both footswitches, MIDI LFO to clock or something). MIDI track CC slots could be useful for some of the ā€˜hidden options’ you see as most useful too.

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Honestly, it’s taken me nearly a year to feel like I’m really clicking with Mood II - like you say, it’s easy to just blow everything out into a stander YouTuber ā€œambientā€ wash. I bought Midi-B cables ages ago with a view to using that Max device to control it, but actually what’s really made it click is having a few hour-long meditations with just Mood, a guitar and amp. Even if that is all it did I’d still keep it just for how enjoyable I find this way of using it, also a good way of exploring what it can do from the ground up.

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I meant how do you plug midi into the box, functionally.
I found this

What do you use?

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Another problem I have is I both want to turn the knobs with my hands and press the switches with my foot ^^
While playing the guitar or the synth.
Feels like I should use an external switch.

Chase bliss has some strange protocol so you need a specially wired cable.

I think there is a midi box as well, where you plug a midi dim into the box and then use 6.8 trs cables to output to Chase bliss or Meris pedals.

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Seems I’ll assemble my own cable ^^

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that“s the cheapest solution for sure.

I’ve said a load in this thread but it always bears repeating I think (or I wouldn’t)

Get a couple of TRS jacks, cut a midi cable in half, solder 2 pins and you are in business with 2 shiny new CB midi cables. I found it pretty easy and I have very little soldering confidence.

I think I got this diagram from here in the first place so thanks whoever posted it first.

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@theartistisirrelevant is the one.
I gave the link to their post right above.

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Ty and ty @theartistisirrelevant i somehow just glossed over that.

It’s been a bit of a week.

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I don’t know if anyone has seen the latest newsletter, but it appears that it is still possible to shop thermae and preamp. They have something called a legacy shop and it seems like you can even buy these if you are a EU citizen as well. Which is strange due to RoHS.

It might actually be an error because the currency is US dollar.

I have three CB midi boxes with regular 1/4’ trs cables and it couldn’t be easier. I’ve programmed every preset via Pedalzombie, and then use a MC3 to scroll through the presets. Heaven.

Mood, in particular, really shines with midi. Clocking the ping pong delay creates a beautiful stereo image, and the reverbs can go from gritty to super lush. Lately I’ve been switching on No Dub and using the looping side as a live effect, then sending it into the wet channel. Also, engaging latch and overdubbing an existing loop is fun, too. . It definitely feels like two pedals: an eccentric looper and a surprisingly versatile reverb/delay/pitch shifter. Instant soundscape machine.

Excited to see what everyone gets!

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seconding everything in @biggerovski13 post, adding that syncing one side to the other in a MIDI clocked situation can be really cool for rhythmic output

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Synths are definitely very loud through CB pedals; I’m constantly having to turn down my digitone into the Mood MkII and Habit. The manuals warn of this.

I think the digital character is meant to be one of the selling points :slight_smile: It certainly is for me – I find the low clock speed sound incredibly musical!

At this point in my musical ā€˜career’ (coming up on 30 years of playing live and recording) I don’t care if my music sounds like standard boring ambient: I enjoy it and heck I was playing avant improv for the first 25 years :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Yeah they had already mentioned that legacy shop in their first newsletter announcing the sale. I was pretty confused because I thought they aren’t allowed to sell them anymore. But I think the legacy shop is specifically for the EU and shows all the discontinued pedals with problematic components. I never got why this shop exists if they’re not allowed to sell these pedals anymore or put them into mystery boxes. Probably best to just try or ask them.