Changes in copied pattern influences the old pattern? RYTM MK2

Hello Elektronauts!

Sorry, but one question from a RYTM Noob.
My 2nd time on this machine and i straight fall in love with this engine.

But what doing i am wrong, when i made a cool pattern, copy it to a next pattern to do some new variations (for example, tune tracks down, machines & also samples) but this influences also the first pattern i copied from? All the changes in the new pattern affect the old pattern?

What doing i am wrong?! And whats the right way to screw new variations of crazy patterns then copy it to the next pattern for the next variation without affecting each other? Maybe i am to much in the Digitakt way of Thinking making beats, and its working complete on another way in the rytm?

Thank you very much!

Best,

Alex : )

Changes to the sound are stored in the kit, not the pattern. If you change the sound of a kit in one pattern, the changes will be present in all patterns using that kit.

You can, however, use parameter locks - hold a trig and change a sound parameter - and the variation for that step will be stored in the pattern.

An alternative is to save the sound changes as a new kit for each pattern, because parameter locking everything can be tedious if you are making global and not per-step changes

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Really?! Oh no : (
Thank you for your fast help!

Ok, the alternative sounds better than the parameter lock thing.
But how i can save a sound as a new kit?

AAAAAAaaaah!!! Checked! Thanks!!! :))))

It helps to make it a routine.
When having made a nice pattern and you want to make a variation, switch to the next pattern. Your current kit is still active (it flashs), now just save this kit to a new slot with a new name. All changes now made in the new pattern are not influencing your original pattern cause they use different kits.

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Perfect, thanks! Thats the way! : )))

Glad I could help.
I’m sometimes a little bit annoyed by the kit structure. And since I’ve got the Digitone, I know the pleasure of not thinking about this. Same goes with parts on the Octatrack.

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Yes, that would be great, if Elektron could whip some of the easy workflow from the newer machines into the “old” ones. I am also adapt & like the fluffy structure and workflow of the Digitakt & Tone!

Hm… I don’t know. Maybe the kit structure is good for some reason.

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The Kit structure is extremely good for many reason.
Imagine you create a progression of 5 different patterns and you want the sounds to stay the same. At some point, you feel like the snare could be a bit more nasty, tweak it… You then balance the hard levels, their pan. Now you want to adjust the compression… It’s done for the 5 patterns at the same time !

Another cool thing is the ability to load a reference kit with ace sounds, when you just want to play, not so much tweak…

Once you’ve understood how it works (ie you’ve erased your work enough times to eventually get it), you’ll regret it’s not implemented on digitwins…

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Exactly! I would love kits on Digitakt and tone!

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Wow, thanks : )