Can "Audiophile" speakers work OK as studio monitors?

Hi, I think I specifically said there are exceptions, no?

Of course there are exceptions. But to claim that the term monitor speaker is nearly a marketing ploy is misguided. For one thing the price range is of influence.

You know how much the BMW’s cost right? They are considered one of the best ever mastering monitors.

I do agree that there are hifi speakers that can do the job. I’m just pointing out that saying the term monitor speaker is a pure marketing ploy is nonsense.

Currently in the process of picking high-end monitoring for my new studio to build the treatment around and in that segment there are techniques being used that aren’t used in speakers aimed at home listening environments. Look at barefoot, kii etc.

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Strange and funny response. I recon you know exactly what I mean though.

OK, so how do you design a monitor for a treated room?

Sure I know how much the B&Ws cost, but there’s a reason why so many mastering studios choose them over a “studio monitor” costing the same.

Like I said, there are exceptions…

…which are so common they aren’t exceptional anymore.

There’s a lot of “studio monitors” out there which really aren’t up to “home hi-if” standards, £ per £.

If we look at low end speakers then sure. Like every item is called pro nowadays.

Still doesn’t mean the term studio monitors is nonsense.

Look at speakers like barefoot and kii and the techniques they use. Genelec as well, Geithain. Those are aimed at studio use specifically.

To emphasize: I’m not saying hifi speakers are impossible to use. Let’s not make this so black/white.

Anyway, I’ve said all there is to say. Not here to win an argument. Just to give my perspective. Cheers :slight_smile:

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I don’t understand why you think there should be a difference between a speaker used in a studio and a speaker used in a home Hi-Fi system.

It’s like saying there are no monitor screens specifically made for professional film studio use and color grading.

Sure, it if you look at “home audio” speakers in the same price range as those you mention you’ll find a bunch of very excellent speakers suitable for home or studio use.

I guess the point is, there is no distinguishing characteristic that sets “studio” monitors apart from “hi-if” monitors, good studio monitors make good hi-if speakers and vice versa.

I wonder if we’re suffering a hangover from the early days of home recording, Tascam Portastudio 1980s era, when mass produced “hi-fi” speakers were often all the was available for a lot of people and even the affordable “studio monitors” available then we’re really not great.

And this is where I disagree. Again look at speaker brands I mentioned before. New techniques in dsp and speaker build are being employed specifically aimed at studio use. Actually at the moment there are some new interesting things happening in this segment. And they are not aimed at home use.

Could you use such a speaker in a home listening environment? Sure.

Could you use a professional color grade monitor for a gaming PC? Sure.

Could you use a hi end hifi speaker in a studio? Yes of course.

See what I’m trying to point out here? :slight_smile:

What specific capability does a “studio monitor” require that a “Hi-Fi speaker” does not?

A flat on axis frequency response. Home audio speakers assume listeners will be off axis.

If you notice people using B&Ws and Egglestons (which btw is entirely other ballpark) they are far back from the speakers.

No one here disagrees that the OP can use their Paradigms to monitor. The point is however they werent designed for that purpose and won’t be as accurate. That’s all were saying.

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Have a look at the brands I mentioned and specifically the kii Three monitors. Which are very interesting in how they work and the tech used in them. It would make no sense to use these in a home listening environment. Unless you are an audiophile with a dedicated listening room with a perfect listening position etc. In which case the question arises if that can be called a typical home listening environment.

Have you actually compared the frequency response and directivity of between similarly priced “studio monitors” and “Hi-Fi speakers”.

As I’d said before, my subjective experience of both is that they’re very different listening experiences.

Empirically you will find plenty of info on studio axial response but scant info on home, for good reason.

Sorry but you are just buying into their marketing.

There is absolutely no reason why a speaker used in a studio should be any different from a speaker used in a Hi-Fi system. In both scenarios the user requirements are identical, i.e. faithful reproduction of the inputted audio signal.

You do understand that frequency response is just one aspect of a speaker and is not the only thing to measure the quality and goal of a speaker on?

In fact frequency response alone says very little about the quality and accuracy of a speaker.

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Just because you keep repeating it doesn’t make it true.

Keep your ears and minds open yall!

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A cursory glance at any audiophile community will show a good number of people using tube amps, vinyl and the like. A ‘warm’ (or whatever buzzword they choose) sound is specifically sought, often at great cost, by a sizeable chunk of the audiophile community. That is, they go out of their way to colour the source audio.

Sure, some audiophiles are looking for flat, accurate, ‘cold’ reproduction of the sound, but they’re not all audiophiles, and I’d hazard a guess that they’re not even most audiophiles.

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