Buying Gear a second/third/fourth time around.. did it ever work!?

i wouldnt say that… but ive been really trying to mull over how i actually want to work with music over the past 6 months and i am coming to certain realizations for sure

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Dieter says delete.

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sometimes requirements for a specific device might change. so the first time you buy a device it doesn’t meet the requirements. the second time it might meet the new requirements

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Interesting thread.

My first thought when reading it was wondering how long people took between deciding selling and purchasing back, not only on actual time but in dedicated time to the tool.

I would also wonder if before purchasing people usually go through reviews, stores, asking the seller in case it is second hand, or even reading the manual before doing any purchased.

I have purchased and sold but never actually repurchased anything back yet, even tho sometimes I have thought about buying a second unit of an already owned piece of kit, just to pair it with the existing one :slight_smile: but never did so…

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well, with every inital purchase i make i extensively listen to demos, look/read at reviews, read the manual (maybe more skim it) to see if the device does certains things in a manner which i like it to do.

i bought a reface cp a second time and will keep it forever. the wurlitzer in it sounds better than an actual wurlitzer in my opinion.

about analog rytm: i almost sold it about a month after i got it. luckily sat down with it once more and eventually it clicked. one year later i have to say it is the best drum machine on this planet. would have definitely rebought it :smiley:

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I owned 2 Monomachines, 2 Korg MS2000BRs, and 4 Octatracks. I still own NONE of them. Take that for what it’s worth. Haha.

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I only ever re-bought gear, that I was forced to sell because being able to pay my rent was more important at that time.

For example I bought and sold a Soma Lyra synth two times over the last few years, but when I can afford it, I would absolutely buy one again. A synth like this (both very limited and very beautiful) I consider a luxury-good. So naturally its the first thing to sell, when needing money, yet this doesn’t mean I didn’t like it the first time I owned it

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It’s never worked out for me. Four DTs, three DNs, four OTs, way too many MPCs and SP-404s… All amazing devices but in the end they just didn’t fit with my workflow, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

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Turns out you just don’t like making music :laughing:

Sounds like someones due their 5th Octatrack!

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I’ve sold a DN and DT once and rebought them both.

In my “gear discovery journey” I learned much more about synthesis on other synths (deepmind / minilogue xd / prologue / taurus / syntakt / softsyths on the MPC). Then it came to me that all the things I want to do with a synthesizer can be done on a DN too.

Then they added EQ’s, a base width filter and another LFO on the DT. This made the DT much more interesting than just these specific added features: It turned the DT a full blown synthesizer with samples as very complex oscillators. It also made it possible to do proper mixing by resampling on the device itself.

Next to the sound quality of both devices (which I find very good), the UI of the Digi series is also a DELIGHT to use.

I’ll stop now before you all think I get paid by Elektron to write this.

TL;DR For me it worked.

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You have your (possibly future) setup thought out pretty well, and this might just become your dream setup for the next few years!

If the OT is your brain you could however also opt for a more limited drummachine and use the OT as the sequencer. You already have the elektron sequencer so that part of the rytm is not that much of a benefit.

The one thing I’d say is that the Rytm’s greatest strengths (all the performance features, the analog fx, sample/synth combination etc) only became apparent to me after using it intensively for some time… so if you do choose to get it I’d advice you to stick with it (through possible hard times :smiley:) for a while… I guess that’s one of the reasons some people change gear often, I think sometimes people don’t take enough time to actually learn these machines.

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what i kind of always miss with Drum sequencing is the ability to be spontaneous. the only real adition it would bring for me, is the direct jump mode and the ability to be spontaneous with my drums.

:100: i´ve been guilty of this myself

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I also don’t think there’s any shame in experimenting with gear - some can be quite insistent that you push through the pain of using something but the reality is that some gear clicks with some people and not others. Sometimes it’s really tiny things about how you use it, one specific feature you like/dislike or a mode you thought would work slightly differently.

Buying/selling used can be great for this - I couldn’t afford to own all of the gear I’ve used over the past year, but I have had the opportunity to trial stuff, explore alternatives, mess with different workflows and among it all try my hardest to find a groove. I don’t think there’s such a thing (for me anyway) as 1 perfect setup, but I do think I’ve learnt a lot more about what I like, value and want to avoid. I currently have compromises in my setup, nothig major - but I am limitted to some extent by what’s actually available, so GAS is always looming…

With that in mind please buy my stuff.

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Prophet 6 - Loved the first one, sold it when I got out of musics a few years back, bought another one and it sounded like ass… I still wonder if sequential changed the formula from when they first came out to more recent ones off the assembly line.

I had a Rytm mk1 and now have the mk2 - not sure if that really counts because the feature set is greatly expanded and makes some of features like aftertouch sequencable becuase now you can sample/record the aftertouch performance and then play the sample back using the sequencer - which was my major complaint with the OG. Sadly my MK2 is in it’s box in the closet.

yes i feel the same… me buying and selling gear has been more of an exploration of what i like and dont like in gear rather then getting the new shiny toy.

:laughing:

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This is just people who have a bad case of GAS. I have done this exactly once, sold a Dark Energy and bought it back a few years later. I sold it before 6 months had passed. Never again, always go forward.

This is GRASS

Gear Re-Aquisition Syndrome (Sucker)

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I regularly go through cycles with gear, thinking something new (currently Syntakt) will be the production center of my setup and then everything around that will inevitably change. Also the idea of a “flagship synth” in the setup keeps evolving… went from a Prophet 6 desktop to a Prophet 08 rack to a Rev2 to a Pro2 to a Pro3 to (on the way) a Pro 3 SE! Geez. Lesser synths come and go, often to be repurchased. Same with pedals, fx units etc.

To the original post, I think a lot of these questions stem from a general sense of creative frustration and hoping something new will fix it, but often it’s something that you had before, that you know the inner workings of better than something you’re unfamiliar with. Also for me my very limited studio space is like a never-ending game of Tetris where in order to fit something new in something else has to go, and often something that you had sold previously ends up being the perfect fit (physically and functionally…)

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I sold a bunch of stuff when I got into eurorack which I have since bought back, like Roland SE-02 and Behringer Neutron.

Devices I didn’t really appreciate the first time around but have been able to make better use of the second time: Waldorf 2-Pole, Analog Heat.

An then there’s the Roland SH-01A. I sold it because while I liked creating patches on it, I could never make it fit into any tracks for some reason. Now I have a System-1m with SH-101 plugout. Strangely this works a lot better for me. I have no idea whether it has a slightly different sound or my approach has changed since. I would also like to install a different plugout in the 1m, so considering getting another SH-01A.

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