BSP and DSI Evolver midi

Hey,

complete noob with Midi, always used CV gate, cant for the life of me work this out.

Trying to sequence the evolver with BSP. Midi channels are both set to 16 but genuinely have no idea what to setup after that. Midi on evolver is set to ‘OUT’

Can anyone point me in the right direction as if im a total beginner. Thanks!

Hey, the controller’s midi out port should connect to midi in on the synth. If the synth makes a distinction of in or out in the menu, it probably needs to say “in”. I’ll Google the evolver and see if I can confirm that there’s no additional set up required. If the BSP is already set up then there shouldn’t be much else to do, but you need to make sure that you have the correct cables. I think beatstep pro uses those little TRS to midi adapters and Arturia uses a type B cable which probably came with it so, for example, roland uses a type A cable which is not compatible however I don’t think that’s the problem here.

Try changing evolver to “in” and I’ll take a quick look around to try and confirm it for you.

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Looks like you need to set the evolver trigger mode to “mid” otherwise hitting play on the BSP will trigger the evolver sequencer, setting it to midi (MID) will make sure it only plays received notes. Otherwise, just match the channels and BSP midi out to the evolver midi in port. If you want to trigger the evolver’s internal sequencer, don’t change it.

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Hey,

thanks for the explanation. I had it the wrong way round so changed to what you said.

If i set the ‘sync’ on BSP to USB it plays the evolver sequencer but if i set to midi it plays nothing? not sure why. Both channels are set to the same… im no doubt not understanding it like I should.

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I see one more potentially relevant setting. It says you have to set midi control to on, did you already do that? Are you connected with a computer in the middle or are they directly connected by midi cables?

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is this on BSP or evolver? Because I cant see an option for Midi control on either?

That’s from the evolver manual, I assume page 6 means the sixth sub page in the menu? Does it allow you to press any of the buttons more than once to access additional pages? I’ll look and see what it says page 1 is, maybe that will help.

It’s under global parameters in the evolver. Page 1 should say transpose and fine tune, the sixth page (of global parameters) should be midi control.

Yeah, this is where im getting confused. Theres 8 pages on this unit. Each page has two sub pages. Page six on my unit is CLOCK DIVIDE/MIDI XMIT

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Alright hold on I’ll see where that is and try to figure out where the information differs. You found global parameters though?

That might have been my bad, this is the keyboard evolver manual. I’m looking for the desktop version so hold on, it’s probably a different operation so not your fault.

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Thank you, much appreciated. Yeah I think the global is just all the pages? Im really not sure

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Ok this is what the desktop version says:

The Trigger Select parameter selects the source for triggering the envelopes. It is
usually set to ALL to allow triggers from either the sequencer or from MIDI. The
Key Off/Transpose parameter provides an easy way to turn off the MIDI notes for
use with the sequencer only. So, to use a MIDI source, you must make sure this
parameter is not off! The same parameter provides MIDI transposing plus/minus
three octaves. See page 33 for more information on these two parameters.
Programs 70 through 127 in Bank 1 are sequences that are set up to play with
MIDI notes. All Programs in Bank 2 are meant to play from a keyboard, with Pitch
and Mod wheel and Pressure all enabled, and no sequences

So:

trigger select - all (or mid)
key off/transpose - on

I’m looking to see if there’s anything else.

As far as the beatstep pro, you might need some additional settings if you’ve only been using it with gate. You’ll have to give me a few minutes but I’ll pull up a manual for that one and see if I can confirm the settings, it should be pretty similar to my keystep pro.

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Cant thank you enough mate, really helpful.

None of the above im understanding haha, its litteraly all gibberrish to my brain :smiley:

I have changed the settings on trigger select but theres not an ‘ON’ option for Key off/transpose.

Ive tried with the BSP but again no change, it’s obviously me and not the unit but now im getting frustrated haha :smiley:

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No worries, if the option is key off or transpose, just pick transpose. I’ll be able to look at the BSP manual in a few minutes. From memory, you’ll need to set a few basic things but should be pretty straightforward once we get the correct menu path laid out.

Ok for BSP: when you hold the channel button to select the sequencer make sure it’s either 1, 2, or drum, I think that the red control channel is just going to send CC’s or whatever it’s configured to, not note data. Make sure the channel for the sequencer that you select is the one for which you have set the corresponding midi channel, in this instance you’ve set it to 16 so you can stick with that.

The sync should be set to INT

You may need to use the midi control center software to configure it for controller mode if you want to control the parameters of the evolver using the bsp. You can also confirm the individual settings using that software. There doesn’t appear to be the depth of onboard menu that the keystep pro has, however if you set a sequence in sequencer 1, 2, or the drum sequencer and then set that sequencer’s channel to 16, have the sync set to INT and assuming the cables are connected correctly, you should be able to hit play and have whatever you programmed play using the evolver as a sound source, so let me know what happens.

Thanks mate - I have seq channel 2 on BSP to midi channel 16. When set to ‘INT’ it still plays the sequencer on evolver and its not inc time with other gear. I give up :smiley: haha

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If it plays the evolver sequence, you’re receiving clock and transport so that’s good. We may however need to make sure that the trigger select on evolver is set to MID despite what the manual says. You’re very close here.

Midi clock in the evolver menu should say IN, also try changing the evolver setting MIDI rec to Par, and midi Xmit to “off”

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Let me know what happens when you try that.

Check Key Off / Xpose - usually you’d want -36. It’s next to Trigger Select, which you probably want on “NiD” as shigginpit already suggested.

okay so now it’s in sync and taking steps from the BSP but theres no note information being triggered by BSP. I can’t change pitch with BSP. but I guess we are one step closer

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Ok so I did read something about if no note information is being received, I’ll go back and look for it.

Check this please:

"When I play a MIDI keyboard, it triggers the envelopes but the oscillator pitch doesn’t change.

Check Key Off/Xpose (Row 7, knob 8). If it is OFF, MIDI notes will not affect the oscillator pitch. This knob also transposes the MIDI range by +/- 3 octaves."

Is this what’s happening or is there no trigger and no pitch?

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