Lol, ok if it makes you happy 
A Ferrari is not just a v10 500hp engine.
You can put a Ferrari engine on a fiat but it will not de the same,
also the dedicate converters and all will work nice and sound better.
And you can trade your Ferrari for something else if you want.
I own a Octatrack, so I’m happy regardless.
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I own a few digital synths including the virus TI which has always been referred to as a VST in a box, and it’s one of my all time favourite synths, I just can’t imagine caring what someone refers to it as, some people really get irked and defensive about it. I can feel all the heckles up against me from here 
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Those with the sh01a, don’t you find the sliders too small to work with? I’ve borrowed the Behringer and even on that very small movements make a huge difference to the sound, especially something like noise level. Do people assign other controllers or is it workable?
The size of it is really appealing as I’m pretty maxed out space wise.
I find them to be just fine.
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I hope Roland is running the same code on the Boutiques as well as in Roland Cloud on PCs. Not only would that save Roland money, but it ensures the code is very well tested. Probably not literally a VST, but conceptually similar.
VST in a box that has a the right buttons and sliders is a good thing.
Just like synths being toy-like (fun generators of ideas and sound) is a plus.
Anyone who uses “VST in a box” or “that synth is a toy” disparagingly is exposing their own limited horizons. 
That said, the SE-02 is the only one that isn’t a VST in a box, but it is a toy
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i was so excited to open my christmas present this year,
but it turned out that it was just a VST in the box.
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I’ve watched a few interviews with those Roland blokes and they are proud of the fact that zencore is now almost a unified architecture between hardware and software. I agree with you I think it’s great to have exactly the same instruments available in both software and hardware especially with interchangeable presets. It’s sadly rare because exclusivity usually takes priority as in the case of the virus. Credit to Roland for taking this path imo, I wish more would do it.
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The Virus TI has tight integration with the DAW using a VST, so it makes total sense to call it a ‘VST in a box’.
Likewise, you could easily refer to a lot of the modern Elektron boxes (even analogue ones!) as a VST in a box, if you utilise OverBridge.
Nobody here got irked about it. You started the conversion by saying “why do people get irked when I refer to it as VST in a box”. Maybe someone outside of this forum got upset with you? I kind of get what you mean. It’s the same synth engine that you can get as a VST (Roland Cloud), but in a hardware box. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. Good on Roland for making it available in multiple formats so people can pick what suits them best.
I just pointed out, that when talking about these boutique hardware devices, why not just call them digital synths. Calling them a VST implies something that they are not. I guess VST has become a synonym for ‘software synth’/‘digital synth’. In that sense, yes you can call it a ‘VST in a box’. I just think it’s more accurate to use the word VST for something that is actually, you know, a VST. I guess I’m splitting hairs. 
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I think you maybe misunderstand, it wasn’t me that called the Roland synths VST in a box in the first place I was just suprised at the heckles towards the person who did. So it’s ok to call a Virus a VST but not not the Rolands which actually have identical VST instruments. Gotcha at least you see the funny side. 
For me it’s more about the things people can’t deal with, I don’t care what people call the synths I own. As someone said a couple of posts back, it’s actually an awesome & useful thing that you can also get the boutique’s as VST instruments. Myself I prefer working with either 100% hardware or software, I find integrating hardware into a DAW is always painful & problematic. Being able to transfer presets to software is a great feature.
Anyway I keep promising myself not to post anymore about it, I feel like I’m perceived as trolling but I’m really not, and it’s lighthearted from end.
At least nobody is talking about the MPC being a DAW in a box, I’ve seen that cause some earthquakes 
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The real question is: is a DAW an MPC? 
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What are the extra sounds on the TR-06 like? Do any lean towards 909, or are they more 606/808?
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all three
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They’re pretty small but it’s manageable.
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The SH01a was my first boutique, and upfront i had the prejudged opinion that it is a “VST Toy in a box” 
…but…i was wrong. It´s acutally quite fun to use. Some might not like it, some do like it, and some might not care. I am ok with the size, could there be longer sliders? Yes, but it´s all sturdy and solid built and feels well to use, so i am ok with it. The slider lengths is actually similar toj some Eurorack modules, so i am used to those, maybe that´s why i don´t mind.
However…check this out:
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My sh01a has literally just arrived - I’d been keeping an ear to the ground for a deal and got it new for less than £300.
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I’m familiar with the zenology model and that sounds great. I’m sure I’ll get one down the line. Right now I’ve borrowed an MS-1 for while which is also great and so I reckon the JD-800 will most likely be the first boutique I get. With the MS-1 though there really is something to be said about always having absolute knob positions, I mean there’s plusses and minuses to it obviously but I am enjoying that aspect.
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They’re small but very very very manageable for me.
What I’ve found with my SH01a is it’s all about the sweet spot. Which I hit most of the time, in little to no time.
So yea. They’re small, but I don’t have problems getting the sounds out of it I want.
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Thing is they’re not that small. Volcas, eurorack, pocket operators, etc. All super small and fiddly. Roland boutiques are large in comparison. Ive only got one, so cant really call myself a collector. I wouldn’t mind the JX 08 though.
(If I didnt have an SH101, I would have got the SH01a ages ago)
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