Behringer Wave (modelled on PPG)

Will the cheapness of this be stronger than my ethics ?

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£522 at thomann

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I’m naming my first child Uli.

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I don’t understand the 8 audio output.
I mean is it 8 part multitimbral ? From the video I see it bi timbral.
If it’s not 8 part, that’s still cool, but that’s not something common.

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It should be multi.

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It is multi, the question is more two part multi which is a sure yes from the demo, or height part multi ( a bit like the ambika which has 6 voice, 6 individual part ).

Ah i see. So maybe 4 parts as 2 are shared for stereo?

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From the publicly available manual:

To further enhance sound design capabilities, the Wave includes a comprehensive
modulation matrix, three envelope generators, and a low-frequency oscillator
with four waveforms and adjustable delay. Creative possibilities are expanded
with an extensive set of keyboard modes and split points, allowing the synth to
be used in standard 8-voice polyphony, unison, or bi-timbral configurations with
a layered keyboard

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Ok so bitimbral only, and 8 output, weird but interesting.

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Is it only bi-timbral? If it copies the Wave 2.3, it should be 8-part multitimbral. What is being described (2-part, with splits and layers) better fits the Wave 2.2.

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In the Music Radar article it says:

“Wave is a multitimbral instrument, allowing up to eight different sounds to be layered or split across the keyboard.”

So maybe one output per layer.

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Can anyone remind in the thread, did they acquire some IP from PPG? I mean the software and the algorithms? Or cloned by reverse-engineering?

Behringer employed Hermann Seib.

Read this interview with him about that.

https://macprovideo.com/article/audio-hardware/hermann-seib-joins-behringer-wave-synthesizer-development-team

This project took over four years to develop after they had the first working prototype. What that means to me is no shortcuts.

They have employed well qualified top experts on numerous occasions.

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We should probably drop the PPG from the title on this thread. It was the very early project name, but Behringer dropped that from their project name pretty early, and is definitely not part of the product name. At the least it could be put in quotes as a descriptive.

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Strikethru could work too

Behringer’s Wave related naming is kinda confusing. We have:

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Yeah, especially when the two get released at practically the same time. I posted about that too in another thread.

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Pretty sure he was one of the beta testers. He knows his stuff and definitely has keyboard chops. I wondered at first why Patrick “Patch Dog” didn’t do the video, but i bet he is busy with all the other release videos.

It’s good to give some of the other crew some recognition, Behringer has done that before.

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The demos certainly sound authentic - but then they should if Hermann Seib was directly involved with development. He’d already developed the free WaveSim software, which was so close to the hardware that Wolfgang Palm was able to use it as the front end when developing an update to the Waveterm OS back in 2008 (Seib also used WaveSim to develop the v8.3 upgrade that resides in more than a few original Waves, my own 2.2 among them).

Incidentally, you can still download WaveSim (it might be 32-bit Windows only) and a bunch of other neat PPG related things from his site: Wave Simulator

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Definitely scooping one, sounds perfect. Was skeptical before I heard the second video because the Pro VS, while nice, didn’t sound like the original and is just too limited to justify using for me. But this Wave with Individual outs, multitimbral capabilities, nails sound, nice look, cheaper than you could hope… as soon as they actually start arriving in the US, it’s a must for me. Maybe the single most exciting new instrument in a second, for what I need.

Wavetable is kind of just that one gap that I have been waiting to fill. M made me want a Microwave but that sound doesn’t totally fit my music either… 3rd Wave is simply too premium to justify for the use case and Elektron never really released a direct take on it so I feel like I have lucked out

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