This is exactly the same what original had. Linn mentioned it in video how Behringer made same mistake like he did when he created Linn drum. I found it interesting
Finn
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i like explaining the joke. you can put another joke in the explanation and really see how lost they areâŚ
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Not really. Weâre talking about cc control and the linn drum didnt have any of those, period.
There is a physical tuning knob for those instruments which theyâve given a cc for tuning/pitch, but the behringer video showed that each sample slot can be changed to load any sample, and each slot has a pitch parameter for tuning (part of the elektron ui rip off) so Roger Linn didnât look too deep into it, he was talking about it the physical interface without first exploring the menu, and most of the assumption on his part seems to be based on the words written under the knobs.
The thing that Iâm currently confused about is how are the tuning knobs related to the sample in itâs corresponding slot? So for example, the sample slot says snare or tom etc. But since you can assign any sample to any slot, when there is a sample of I donât know, mickey mouse in the snare slot, then one would assume that the knob corresponds to the slot and therefore the cc controlling the knob now controls the pitch of the mickey mouse sample, right?
The way they attempted to visually reproduce the linndrum makes it confusing as the actual functions of the machine seems to have very little to do with what theyâve put on the box.
Also, I have to say that it sounded better in the behringer videos, the user content sounds a little flat to me, and when the âsynth kingâ is playing a pitched bassline chromatically it sounds awful. Not all samples can be played chromatically with a pleasing effect, but in particular that sounded really bad to my ears.
I need to hear this in a context that better demonstrates itâs capability as a sampler. So far all of this content is treating it entirely as a drum machine, even when they sample into it, itâs just one shot drum samples. If this is no good as a sampler then it loses a lot of itâs appeal.
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If its just a playback sampler then a Digitakt would be a better option?
I wouldnât get your hopes up on the sampler front, I expect itâs just gonna be pretty basic in that department. After all the OG linn drum wasnât a sampler in the strictest of terms. My take is they were never gonna base in on using EEPROMs and offering (limited) sampling is still going one better than sample playback only from externally loaded content. That explains the fairly meagre RAM amount. Iâm okay with that tho, I donât think they were aiming it at the vintage sampler target per se.
Taking the above into account I can see why theyâre teasing their SP idea⌠an instrument that was always a sampler. Itâs not a huge leap from the technical groundwork they will have laid with the LM and I can see them using that as a test bed with future updates. Iâm sure @jukka said they were already looking at a fairly hefty update with added functionality (tuning for all drums etc) but donât quote me on that
Yeah, i got this from their public FB page
It didnât go into great specifics on how this was to be accomplish but it was being investigated. Later they said they had made these changes, amd i am guessing it is in test. I posted about this over here. Itâs still lacking clear detail, but my hunch is theyâll have these changes for download pretty quickly.
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I think at a certain point weâre going to have to stop comparing this to the linndrum and be forced to look at it for what it actually is.
It can sample line in and the sample can be trimmed down to the zero crossing with a visual representation of the wav, so thatâs about all you can really ask out of a sampler without advanced features like slicing etc.
The Linn 9000 was shown to have sample recording as a feature, I posted a video of it above, so there is some precedent for it but this is a different thing altogether. Iâm thinking of this less as a linndrum clone by the minute.
Given that the sample slots can have any sample, I suspect what theyâre working on is maybe using the tap button or something else to change the function of the âtuningâ knobs to impact different sample slots, but I donât know.
Their response about implementing roger linnâs suggestion makes less and less sense, given that âtuningâ is just changing the pitch, and they showed it could already do that as it is, so the only thing it could be referring to is the knobs or CC to every sample spot.
The SP idea: My controversial take is theyâve already been working on something, this was a good time to coyly send a message to Dave Rossum: âYour days are numberedâ.
This thing is more a sampler than not. It is a drum machine which can sample, what more (in terms of a vintage sampler from 1983) could they add? There was no SP and no MPC at that time, and in fact the LM drum already has more sampling capability than most loop samplers of the era and even the less expensive contemporaries of the SP and MPC.
I think you guys arenât looking at this for what it is. Itâs wearing the clothes of a drum machine, and itâs of course no digitakt, but this thing is a sampler. It just isnât an MPC.
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Digitakt doesnât just play back samples, it can sample too. Model:Samples only plays back samples. maybe thatâs what you were thinking of?
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Even better,
in the post you quoted i said it is 12 bit
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every channel now has CC for tune, just finishing the beta now
may go live this weekend, may be next week
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swapping kits is instant , there is no BS , if a pattern is playing and you hit another bank it immediately swaps 
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Got mine today, nice weighty unit too, nice heft to the sound as well.
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Looks like Im going to return my unit back.
The machine will not save manually, and I have to leave Auto Save on for it to save anything, for example first thing I always do is delete any factory patterns/songs. to do this manually you have to
Select erase
Press song
Select pad#
Press erase
to save this you then
hit save
press song
Select pad#
Hit save
On my unit if I do that and the songs/patterns are gone hurrah you say. BUT I power off machine power it back on and bingo those factory patterns/songs are back GRRRR
It only erases them properly if follow above procedure AND LEAVE Auto save ON.
So that i understand, itâs not broken, itâs that the operation of deleting factory presets is awkward / clunky, but you actually can delete them ?
Only if you leave Auto Save onâŚ
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Do the patterns count as space against the amount of content the machine can hold? Or is it just x number of patterns per slot and then samples are where the memory is used up?
Sounds like a pretty roundabout way of deleting content, but how much impact does leaving it have on the LMâs natural limitations? Did you find that deleting factory content did free up memory? The demos made it appear that a lot of the factory stuff is locked.
And is this only for deleting content or is it everything? Like you canât save your own patterns unless autosave is on? Is there a manual save option and it just doesnât work?
Its only the patterns and Songs I didnt like the Kits are pretty good sounding, you only have 8 Song Slots each slot can have 16 patterns - 2 of those song slots are filled with factory patterns.
Only the factory Kits & sample content is locked.
There is a manual save button, and havent tried doing own patterns yet, and am reluctant too in case I lose it when saving and powering down, I really dislike Auto Saving.
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Iâm hoping mine will arrive tomorrow. Iâve been disappointed with Andertons on this occasion. To cut a long story short I had a pre order in weeks ago and their website was showing them in stock on Friday for Saturday delivery. Iâd not heard anything from them and contacted them several times only to be told âitâs in dispatchâ. Got a shipped notification from them today but the tracking URL doesnât work. Iâve never had an issue with them before but Iâve not been impressed on this occasion
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