Behringer JN-80 Polyphonic Analogue Synthesizer. Roland Juno-60 clone.
https://synthforsale.com/product/behringer-jn-80-polyphonic-analogue-synthesizer/
its being discussed on gearspace and the usual youtube things… but nothing from behringer / namm so far
im not failiar with that store … ive never heard of it / bought anything from there but it has a lot of stock …
rumour was that it appeared on andertons for a very short time… but ‘rumours’ …
Gimme desktop or gimme death
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I saw a Reddit post showing a photo of the JN-80 on display at NAMM but I can’t find it now. Might have been taken down. I suspect someone broke their non-disclosure posting it. I bet we’ll see it announced properly in the next couple of days.
Edit: found the photo in question: Behringer JN-80 - Their JUNO6/60 Clone Edges Closer - gearnews.com
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BMX is the background too
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other than aesthetics/nostalgia, what would be the argument for buying this instead of a Deepmind? i thought that was the whole point of the Deepmind
Different oscillator (possibly) and different filter (most likely) in a more focussed package
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ive not seen any images of it turned on … or any audio / anyone using it.
same with dmx… i think theres an image of the jt-2 turned on (an led is lit up) but also no audio or anything playing with it.
perhaps something will appear over the next few days.
Update - yes - it actually made sounds …
I don’t know about this JN-80 but the deep mind doesn’t sound like a juno 60
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Yeah agree, I only play the Juno 60 for 10 minutes, but I have a deepmind for years. There is a gap between both, and not a small one. That does not make any of both bad, but they does not sound the same on really simple patch.
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Deepmind doesn’t have anything to do with a Juno does it? It’s a rare example of Behringer creating something of their own.
Edit: It seems the filter design is 106 inspired, but doesn’t appear to be a clone as such.
The Deepmind series is, according to the engineers, heavily based on the Juno 106.
They also did the X with the Juno colour scheme
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Comparisons have been done. The sound is exceptionaly close most people wont hear any difference, The original Junos were noisy as well.
The only difference that will matter will be the form factor. It looks more like a Juno.
Your losing those Deepmind FX though and they are brilliant.
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Fair enough, I stand corrected! Yea if anything the Deepmind seems like a more versatile, dare I say it, improved Juno. So makes this latest synth a bit of a puzzler. There is a sadness to the fact that a clone is probably being made because it will sell better.
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I think Uli got it right with the Deepmind. But in a way kind of regrets it.
The biggest clone company of all time has a stab at the most iconic synth of all time? This is more inevitable than Thanos.
Sound clips sounding good to me!
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oh actually someone is playing with at namm
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Temu?
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The 106 used the 80017 module for VCF/VCA. The consensus of the folks who’ve reverse engineered it is that’s it’s a 3109 for the filter and 662 for the amp with both in SMD format. B wouldn’t have had access to either chip at the time and without access to a DM myself I’d guess they used the commonly available 13700 OTA for both.
The 6/60 used the same chipset, albeit in through hole format. The difference between the two is in the HPF. I’ve also read that Roland voiced the 106 differently to the 6/60 to have a more ‘modern’ sound as the DX7 was out and sucking up sales from Roland (and everyone else)
CoolAudio have the V662 in their range and I believe B are using it in their RD8 and MS1 mk2 units rather than the 13700 they were previously using. Alfa have their 3109 but whether B will be using it is another question. If they did they’d technically be closer to the original 6/60 and 106 architecture than the DM
Maybe they’ll be using the 662 for a discrete filter (as Roland did in their synths before they designed the 3109 such as the early rev Jupiter 4). It’s reckoned the 3109 is just 4x 662 on one die along with some other bits and bobs. Those early rev Jupiters are lauded for their filter over the later 3109 ones so if B have gone down that route we might be in for a treat.
The Oscillator design shouldn’t be overlooked either. I’ve tried to find out what they used for the DM but to no avail. Maybe they’ll go with the same oscillator 1 design from the DM or a programmable counter (maybe using an FPGA?) similar to the original Juno’s. Maybe that’s what they did in the DM. If anyone knows please feel free to chip in
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