In my part of the world the day between Tuesday and Thursday is called Wednesday 
I think the Grind should be a lot of fun - i have a Crave and Brains, so it was a hard one to justify - even though it looks great and has the ‘lpg’ and the lighter wood sides
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I honestly think it’s a good idea to master the patchbay without going for external cv goodies, kinda force yourself to tap the enormous creativity that’s there
watch any number of M32 videos to see what’s possible
Korg SQ-1.
It’s cheap as chips, gives you clock in/out and two lanes of sequencing or modulation. It can do melodies, LFOs and even sort of envelopes.
Another demo
Hi there,
I’d like to share my experience with Grind’s VIBRATO (OSC MOD):
If you want to hear its vibrato the FM CV LEVEL trim poti must NOT be exactly on 12 o’clock. It is OK if it is on 10:30 or 13:30 or below.
I first thought that I have gotten a defective unit because I couldn’t hear anything while turning the vibrato knob and neither the small manual nor any YT videos I’ve found explain that topic.
Is it maybe a phase/antiphase thing? Or is there just a dead zone in the middle because they used the wrong kind of pot?
I don’t know. I’m just glad to hear the vibrato effect now.
Is there any midi implementation of parameters, like timbre, harmonics or cutoff?
I didn’t see anything in the manual …
If it’s derived from Plaits then it’s an attenuverter and the middle setting will be zero (there are actually + and - symbols on the front panel for this control)
Besides notes, tempo and transport I see CV for that parameters only.
Quite a missed opportunity… Imagine being able to p-lock them with your favorite elektron box!
And I think Behringer never update their firmware on this kind on synth unfortunately 
Come on – Behringer gets accused of updating firmware too often !
Ok. I was not aware of it.
Like serious update or bug fixing only?
What about the crave and edge ? Can we expect to have CC control over those param?
They fix bugs but also offer improvements where they can. Didn’t the Pro VS get an extra voice and FX on an update? Somethings can’t be done due to the architecture… if Crave is basically an old school mono with sequencer then that’s your lot. The Pro800 uses a micro to scan the front panel so CC is possible.
Since this has MI Plaits engine, is it pretty similar to my MI Shruthi? Wondering if it makes sense to swap.
Nope. MI Shruthi is it’s own thing. Closer to Waldorf wavetable or Ensoniq ESQ-1 subtractive synth with an analog filter. MI Plaits came later, when MI moved away from DIY and into eurorack modular. While there is surely a little bit of overlap between them (both being digital oscillators), I would say the potential variety of sounds is vastly different.
Edit: reading your post again in the context of Grind vs Shruthi. Grind’s workflow is very different. The Plaits engine is great for tonal variety, but the whole package is stuck inside of a semi-modular groovebox, with a “what you see is what you get” workflow. Both are fun. Just different.
If you’re more into “in the moment, record it and then its’ gone”, Grind is awesome. If you want/need patch recall, Shruthi is better.
I think Mutable Braids used a lot of Shruthi code.
The Braids engine was recently ported to the Ableton Move with with the alternative Schwung firmware