Well, I am rather surprised you never actually saved any patterns in two years of having the device 
Thanks for referring to the manual again, so yes, it appears that it saves one pattern comprising three voices. This is nice because because you can potentially create a complex track by switching between the 12 different patterns.
I was also looking at the RK008 but already seems quite tedious in comparison.
I look forward to other usersā experience with the Bastl, especially when it comes to pattern saving/ switching:-)
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Yep, for me itās exclusively a performance tool for live.
My current moniker is HumanLFO because I use āmanual modulationā - always looped on the fly, and never saved - more than actual LFOās. For that reason, the MIDI Looper has a very central role in my setup.
Iām also curious to hear how other people use the Bastl.
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Iām not playing before an audience, just a hobbyist these days. But for me it is similar to improvising with a group I used to play with. One of us would set up a loop and we would improvise over that and maybe create our own, completely independent loop. It was very abstract so syncing was never an issue.
I used a Boss DD-20 pedal. I would dial in a long delay and never touched the built in looper. Anything from six to twenty seconds or so. Then I would set the feedback to maximum. If I wanted to evolve the loop I would dial back the feedback just a tad so the original signal would slowly fade and be replaced by a newer signal.
mutate our loops so that after a few minutes the original groove would be completely changed.
This allows me to do something similar solo. The simplest set up is to send and return a Virus Indigo to the Bastl. I use 3-4 presets on the Virus: 3 timbres for loops on the Bastl and sometimes a 4th non-looped timbre.
The big difference is that I can tweak the Indigo so that the voice itself would change rather than fade out and be replaced. It is a different way of evolving the loop.
Both have their own qualities. I may experiment with using both the Bastl and the DD-20 so that both types of mutation are available.
I never think toward saving the pattern on the Bastl itself since I will record the loops that I like and mess with them in the PC.
I really like how the Bastl works. Once the first loop is set up everything else kind of just follows along. Less technical than using a DAW, MPC or multitrack looper IMO.
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Can anyone help me wrap my brain around how I can use my midi looper for multi-timbral stuff? Iāve been using it with my Prophet synth for getting ideas for the last year and itās great for that, but Iām not into the idea of taking that synth out live.
It got me thinking if I could try using it either just plugged into ableton live on my laptop and controlling three soft synths with my little qunexus keyboard controller, or controlling my Syntakt, though those midi channels are monophonic.
Basically my brain is getting scrambled trying to figure out the midi channel setups and controls to do any of this.
If anyone has tried either, please let me know how you configured the routings!
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The Midilooper automatically uses MIDI channel 1, 2, and 3 for the 3 available looping tracks. I donāt think these can be changed or reconfigured.
So no matter what channel you use to play into the Midilooper, it will use channels 1, 2, and 3.
Hope that makes sense.
I like you have also been struggling for a while to figure out my exact practical application for how to use this multitimbrally.
What Iāve realized is that it can only really work with modules, it doesnāt really work with keyboard synths for multi-timbral use.
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You can change the MIDI channels on the Bastl MIDI Looper as you wish and easily
(Fn+A/B/C and up/down arrows to select another channel)
I actually think it works well with multitimbral synths
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Ok thats good to know, thanks.
I may have been unclear, I was trying to say I find it works best with multi-timbral modules as opposed to multi-timbral keyed synths.
The reason being that I have had to disable ālocal controlā on keyed synths to utilize the Midilooper, and then if I want to switch patches, or control anything on the synth, I would have to make toggle local control back on, etc.
If there is a way around this issue, would love it if somebody can disabuse me of the notion.
Cheers
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Itās a tricky little beast, indeed.
What puzzled me at first was that, while you can set the MIDI outs on the three channels as you wish, it will always sum up the CCās it receives from any channel through its MIDI input. So if you send it CC#12 from a machine using channel 6 and CC#12 from another machine using channel 9, it will consider itās the same CC# and output it on any channel you select for an output.
For that reason, the RK-008 is probably more flexible (I havenāt check, though). What puts me of with it is the tiny and numerous keys. I kind of like the big buttons on the Bastl. They feel comfortable to punch in in a live situation.
Would love to hear the music you make with this twin setup 
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#metoo 
Iām still in the process of finalizing it, and due to work, I havenāt had much time to put it to use yet. But my early trials were promising!
(If youāre interested, I go into more details on how things are organized in the āYour Setupsā thread)
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reminds me I need to get this looper out again. I think I hit a wall with it when trying to find a way to switch between different saved loops, so I could move between a partA/B or verse chorus. it can save stuff to different locations, but not sure how much of a button combo it is to recall things or if they sync when switching?
I love the concepts of this thing! After watching a few demos, I created a pretty close approximation in my Octatrack. Mostly for my Nord 3p
In spite of its apparent simplicity, in the end, there are many different ways to use the Bastl MIDI Looper.
I see it mainly as a performance instrument, so Iāve never saved any patterns into it. If thatās your goal, I understand this looper might look inconvenient.
Like I wrote in this thread in the past, I think its beauty lies in its simplicity. The RK-008 is probably a better option if you need a fully fledged MIDI sequencer to memorize things and so on.