If the Roland D-50 was multitimbral or if home recording had been more affordable back in the day, I might have kept the D-50. I guess today one can put it to much better use.
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This video?
Where does TE look pissed off in the video? I couldn’t find it…
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The bit in the van with the guy in the yellow glasses, about half way through the video. Don’t think he really felt in on the joke, seemed a bit narked by it.
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When they’re sitting in the trailer in an uncomfortably close space and florian is forced to explain the purpose of giving out memes and dude says “oh so this is a joke?” or something like that.
there was no humor in that room.
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I always thought TE had send him that Medieval Sampler so he’d make this video.
Leaves Elektron being actually that cool to really send him a new Elektron to present as Bad Gear.
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he also had to do a live education demo at klangfarbe as part of the arrangement.
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im confused why this is still being said because it wasnt a demo of the product, it was a one minute video that was mostly the announcement video. i feel like im crazy when i start defending TE because i dont care about them at all but i get confused by this lore the haters develop and cant help but engage. people wanna hate them so bad. its like a “love and hate are two sides of the same coin” scenario
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I was under the impression that he made the audio (using the sampler). I thought that constituted a demo, unless a different word is more appropriate.
im nearly positive it was just the audio from the original announcement video. i remember being lowkey bummed that it was such a low effort video.
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I think it was just the stock samples, which also appear in the official demo. Maybe I was mistaken. I did watch both though.
So the video is no longer up, is that correct?
He did definitely use some of their footage, no doubt about that.
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yeah its down. from what i remember it was posted the same day as the announcement trailer too, so i dont think he had a unit. pretty sure the audio was just the same as the original video
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I’d need to hear and compare again, I was always under the impression he got a unit on promo or some shit. They work on those (bad gear) videos for several weeks, so I highly doubt he was able to do a full remix of their video and the demo song on the day of. Just to be real about the possibility though, that would probably change the context of the complaint.
We need more confirmation about the work itself, but I think either way (at least under US law) it would be considered a work of parody and not satire.
I found a pretty good definition that says “While both parody and satire use humor as a tool to effectuate a message, again, the purpose of a parody is to comment on or criticize the work that is the subject of the parody. By definition, a parody is a comedic commentary about a work, that requires an imitation of the work. Satire, on the other hand, even when it uses a creative work as the vehicle for the message, offers commentary and criticism about the world, not that specific creative work. Therefore, parodies use copyrighted works for purposes that fair use was designed to protect.”
So he’s not using it as a platform for commenting about the world or the synth industry or politics etc, it’s a direct spoof of the product / company / content. So, the focus of the parody is on topic with the parodical use, it’s not representative of any other implied message or agenda.
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no shade thrown here, the game is the game but i remember it feeling more like a quick cash in on the hot meme of the moment. the midsommer comparisons were aplenty, somebody had to do it. i would expect him to really go all out with a typically formatted episode had he had a unit, the thing is ripe for roasting
@shigginpit i feel like parody law wouldnt protect the use of an exact replication of the media. how much does one have to edit a piece of video to legally remix it under parody law
I guess it may not even be a question of being able to prove fair use (which imo it is) but of how YouTube would usually react to such a dispute.
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We would need more information, we are both going off our memories of a 1 minute long video from like 8 months ago. I’m not an entertainment lawyer or a free speech lawyer so I can’t answer that on speculation, it would just be opinion which isn’t representative of any value regarding the incident we’re discussing.
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Youtube is notoriously overcautious. The podcastage guy almost got his main account terminated and they only reinstated it because he has a huge following and his followers on twitter started harrassing youtube execs directly and tagging them on social media so they repealed the decision after telling him he was through.
This was for reading fairy tales (goldielocks and the three bears) from a storybook on his third channel, but which happened to be the primary email associated with his main account that has all the followers.
The point is, youtube is like ban first, ask questions later.
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YouTube are themselves legally exposed because, as the platform owners, they are ultimately responsible for the content hosted there. This puts content creators in a fragile position and that’s why in this case it was best to just remove the video.
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Teenage Engineering guys did not look upset at all to me just amused.
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Yeah this is oddly the second time in this same thread that I’ve seen people accuse someone of being furious in a YouTube video and I don’t see any sign of that. The first time was that short video Florian made reading a post where someone accused him of being a shill - there were members here saying they were certain he was so angry he was shaking. Couldn’t really see it myself, it was obviously just a funny video. Similarly, the TE guys really don’t seem like they care much (why would they?).
I get the sense that many people are attuned to finding drama, even where there may be none.
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Is this true?
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