ARP pattern transition trick

TrondC · 2013-10-26T10:25:30.000Z

That was insane. I’ve so much fun just using the A4 in a not-so-exploring way but this is a whole new lever of awesome. I haven’t even toched the arps yet (shoot me) but let’s just say that I’m gonna change that right now

vargasz · 2013-10-26T23:23:48.000Z

great trick i was thinking about how to change pattern, but keep some things the same!
awesome that you figured out

void · 2013-10-27T11:27:26.000Z

an idea i just had with this…
don’t have my A4 here at the moment to play with this…

making a polyrhythmic pattern (INF length…) which is filled up with p-locked & sound-locked trigs (INF trig length), various sounds, various arp settings per track & per trig (where possible… i.e. no2-4 params)… not every trig shall have a trig, rests can be useful too…

this pattern shall serve as a sort of “lottery tumbler”…

then, in a different pattern (the main playing pattern), trig mutes are used as outlined above…a quick pattern switch to the “tumbler pattern” and back to the other pattern should then “grab” arpeggios from te tumbler, more or less by chance… the polyrhythm and DIRECT JUMP mode should ensure that it’s not so easy to predict what kind of sound you’ll end up with (not sure if the thing with polyrhythm actually helps in this case)…

kind of like in the video I posted above, at the beginning this is happening with the 16th hihat arpeggio, but there it was planned, I knew that the hihat arpeggio is trigged on step 1 of track 2. so this would be kind of like this, but more random/chancey, involving all steps and all tracks… could be interesting, dunno…

sicijk · 2013-11-14T21:52:12.000Z

Big Love!

thanks Dude!

cant wait to have asap A4 here

raskjaerbo · 2013-12-21T02:01:51.000Z

Haha, great idea. Have to try this tomorrow morning!

Thanks for sharing

funkymogli · 2015-01-20T21:47:05.000Z

this video sold the a4 to me

biologik · 2015-01-20T22:53:17.000Z

holy crap.
thanks for bumping this thread from 2013. this was before I had an A4

that trick is phenomenal!!!

Naboo · 2015-01-20T23:41:33.000Z

Brilliant. Cheers Void.

caligears · 2015-01-24T19:53:58.000Z

Thanks Void, for not only giving us ‘just the tip’, …but video too.

(“See what I did there? Hello? Is this mic on”)

Anyways, just post giving thanks!!!

djenzyme · 2015-01-26T00:47:34.000Z

Thanks for this awesome tip. I’m still a noob at this but i just tried this trick and it has opened up a whole new avenue of possibilities!

Cunningly devious, or maybe deviously cunning!

djenzyme · 2015-01-27T15:58:49.000Z

I had to test this in midi mode on the OT… and it worked!

With this in mind i’m wondering whether these machines were designed to work like this or whether its a happy accident?

damondarkwalker · 2015-01-27T19:48:42.000Z

Amazing! Thank you so much.

djenzyme · 2015-01-27T20:27:24.000Z

I’m still a noob with Elektron gear, i don’t even know if it the OT has trig mutes (the same as A4). Instead of the trig mute I just used a note trig then deleted it after the arp started, works great!

jim5 · 2015-02-12T22:29:06.000Z

This works on the OT. Nice technique.

Snivitz · 2015-02-12T22:52:33.000Z

Forgot all about this! Thanks for the bump!

TrabanT · 2015-05-14T20:47:05.000Z

this is S T I L L over my head … will figure out in 2016 hopefully …

vestibule · 2015-05-15T03:02:57.000Z

It’s not hard to do, just a pain to program. It would be so much better if it was possible without having to rely on the arpeggiator and the trig mutes.

Did anyone else notice the A4 getting really buggy when doing this though?

tedopon · 2015-05-15T03:53:23.000Z

Thanks for posting this. I have a pattern I wrote about a week ago that does this. It’s 64 steps and one channel alternates every 32 into something completely different, and it takes two full runs (128 steps) for it to recycle back into repetition, but it’s really just one 16 step bar repeated four times. It was really late when I wrote it and up until reading this I had no idea how I did it even after pouring over everything page by page. I thought it was something with the LFO that was making it do that, even after verifying it couldn’t be that by subbing the targets out. Turns out that it is using the same technique just with different values plugged into the arp page. Thanks a lot for verifying I am not crazy (at least regarding this…).
I’ve had this instrument for about three months now and I feel I still haven’t even scratched the surface of its potential. I guess that’s to be expected. I had the Machinedrum for six months before I even messed with anything more than simple P-locks and a couple of the CTRL functions.

vestibule · 2015-06-03T05:51:04.000Z

Just discovered that this works with infinite notes as well!
Perfect for drone sets. No need to use the ARP or trig mutes at all. Just set the VCA’s release to INF. Start pattern, mute tracks, change pattern, unmute tracks one by one. Fantastic.

smokyfrog · 2015-06-03T11:42:27.000Z

Impressive stuff. Makes me feel very old…
My own biggest problem with doing this kind of thing is when I return to the projects and delve into each bank/pattern days/weeks/months later, I have so far not evolved any way to remember what the hell I did on each track. Even finding favourite patterns amongst the banks is tough. I at least decided to always relate key to bank (e.g. bank A is always going to be in Am, bank B in Bm and so on), which helps, but how do people usually remember all this stuff? Maybe I make too many patterns… just can’t stop though.