I have a MIDI inquiry.
Can a 3-button foot-pedal (BOSS FS-1-WL) that can simultaneously send CC and PC messages make pattern-changes on the AR? (MK1)
I think so, but am unsure how to get them communicating.
If I understand correctly, you can use the editor app for this device to assign single specific values for Program Change to each control. If that’s what you want then it should work OK.
I don’t think that you can use the pedal’s controls to increment or decrement the value of the PC message so that you could, for example, scroll through the patterns on your AR. You would need some kind of additional intermediate MIDI processing device for that.
Do you just want to select between a few patterns on the AR or do you want to be able to select any pattern on the AR?
Thanks Peter.
At this stage, I only need to switch between 3 different patterns in a performance.
So for example, my 3 MIDI buttons could be assigned as following:
Left- pattern A1
Centre- pattern A2
Right- pattern A3
Do I have this correct?
If so, how would I find the correct MIDI data to link with these patterns?
…
And if I eventually want to have a scroll function, what new gear would I need to look at?
Thanks for your help Peter.
You’ll need to use Programme Change messages. They can have a value between 0-127. I don’t know, but presumably each pattern is numbered in order:
a1 → 0
a2 → 1
a3 → 2
…
b1 → 16
b2 → 17
…
etc
You’ll need to tap the button some time before the end of the pattern to queue up the next one correctly.
On my FS editor, I set the following as a test:
CC value 118 (I tried CC3 too) [bank select]
CC message 1 (for some reason 0 was not available… instead it read “off” for the 0 value)
PC message 1 (same issue with the 0)
I assumed this would translate as bank B2…
But after pressing play of the AR, no pattern change was actioned.
Any ideas what to try next?
B02 should be PC 17 I believe, PC 1 is A02, you also need to make sure that PRG CH RECEIVE is checked in the MIDI CONFIG > SYNC menu and that the pedal actually sends PC message plus the PROGRAM CH IN CH channel in the MIDI CONFIG > CHANNELS menu, you can use some sort of midi monitor program on your computer to see what exactly the pedal sends to what channel.
MIDI program change messages 0-127 will select pattern 1-128 (A01 - H16) on the Analog Rytm
PRG CH RECEIVE will when active make Analog Rytm respond to incoming program change messages, which is useful when wanting to select patterns externally. The MIDI channel that will listen to incoming program change messages is set in the MIDI CHANNELS menu
PROGRAM CH IN CH selects the MIDI channel that will listen for incoming program change messages. An AUTO setting will use the AUTO channel. Enable Analog Rytm to respond to program change messages in the MIDI SYNC menu
Hi Alechko
As you recommended, I checked the PROG CH RECEIVE box (see photo)
Checked the PROG CH IN CH was on Auto. (See photo)
Changed my Footswitch PC to #17 (see screenshot)
And you can see my connection ports on Southey attached photo.
But still no luck.
Any ideas what I’m missing?
according to the screenshots you’re sending the PC from the pedal on MIDI CH1, while the AUTO CHANNEL on the rytm set to 14 and you’re receiving the PC on AUTO, so if you change the pedal config to CH14 it should work.
one more thing, you’re currently on B01 on rytm, sending PC to the same pattern won’t work, after changing the pedal to CH14 make sure to switch to another pattern to see the program change happen.
Oh hooray!
Thankyou Alechko!
I’ve got it now!..
Selecting CH 14 in my pedal set it right!
Thanks for your help octagonist.
I have my desired outcome now.
Thanks Peter for your help!