You’ll get that with OverBridge.
[quote=““invisible acropolis””]
[quote=“Ranzenberger”]As this thread covers A4 and AR as a “team” I have one question:
In which way would you link those two? AR output → A4 input or A4 output → AR input?
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I cant really understand why you guys would drop 3K on some super killer synth/sequencers, and not drop a few hundred on a proper mixer for proper routing and outputs, etc?
really boggles my mind actually
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Hey,
my question was meant more generally, so if one routing direction makes more sense than the other due to possible manufacturer’s intention.
I have to say that the world of hardware synths is completely new to me… only managed VSTs and Ableton’s Synths so far.
What I’ve read so far it is all about what I am after… in terms of sound design. There is no rule. So I would have to experiment if I once owned both machines
Thanks for your answers!
nnbveh
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You’ll get that with OverBridge.
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yeah, i thought about it too, in fact,i’ve got the editor for A4 already, the one made in Max/Msp, will try to use it while learning the thing…
does quality audio production only apply to billboard top 40 for you?
also - im not sure why you would need to bring that kind of psychological defense mechanism into this, but i can guess
nirun
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[quote=““invisible acropolis””]
[quote=“Paland”]Guess it depends on what you’re after. I’m not looking to make the next Lady Gaga hit with pristine mastering and a perfect mix. I’m looking to experiment and have fun in a live-oriented setup. That’s where Elektron really shines for me.
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does quality audio production only apply to billboard top 40 for you?
also - im not sure why you would need to bring that kind of psychological defense mechanism into this, but i can guess[/quote]
also can’t forget, that what invisible acropolis is suggesting actually allows you MORE freedom to experiment and have fun vs jumping through pages of amp settings on the OT/A4/AR whatever your heart desires.
A mixer, gives you hands on control of levels across ALL your elektron machines/synths/sound sources. Try controlling the levels of various tracks on multiple machines at once and compare to how much faster this is with physical faders. One hand motion vs multiple clicks and knob turns on multiple machines/interfaces.
do not dismiss the suggestion of someone who is simply trying to help you experiment AND have fun in a more efficient manner
even in this live set, the artist is focused more on the mixer and just a few channels than the Elektron machines. This of course is not the only way to use them but proves that a mixer has more utility than for lady gaga sound quality (whatever that means)
nnbveh
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does quality audio production only apply to billboard top 40 for you?
also - im not sure why you would need to bring that kind of psychological defense mechanism into this, but i can guess[/quote]
also can’t forget, that what invisible acropolis is suggesting actually allows you MORE freedom to experiment and have fun vs jumping through pages of amp settings on the OT/A4/AR whatever your heart desires.
A mixer, gives you hands on control of levels across ALL your elektron machines/synths/sound sources. Try controlling the levels of various tracks on multiple machines at once and compare to how much faster this is with physical faders. One hand motion vs multiple clicks and knob turns on multiple machines/interfaces.
do not dismiss the suggestion of someone who is simply trying to help you experiment AND have fun in a more efficient manner
even in this live set, the artist is focused more on the mixer and just a few channels than the Elektron machines. This of course is not the only way to use them but proves that a mixer has more utility than for lady gaga sound quality (whatever that means)
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I’d agree that mixer can be a creative weapon, but in case of this particular setup, AR+A4 there’s a problem - no individual outputs on A4…So in any case, some part of the mixing and levelling would have to be done inside of the box itself, or, which i’m personally counting on, on the laptop with the help of the ovebridge and some controller with faders.
The guy on the video doesn’t have AR with it’s performance page and scenes, or A4 with it’s macros, and i’m not sure i’m seeing him working with scenes on the OT that much, well, it’s just his choice, kind of classic way to play live electronic music, IF he’s using the mixer for the transitions and such, and not just for the levelling of his stuff in real time, which is not such a fun thing to do in my opinion.
I’d prefer the levels to be matched in advance and to concentrate on actual performance part…but i guess that’s not that easy, so yeah, problem of dealing with the levels and controlling them in the most efficient way stays on the list
nirun
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It is 100% possible to save all your amp/eq settings in your patterns and have everything balanced before entering a gig but even in the studio, a mixer or interface with many inputs/outputs saves you SO much time and gives you way more flexibility if you so need it.
I know personally, I’m feeling inadequate with a 4 in 4 out interface and with the AR being delivered soon I would love to have all the 8 outputs tracked individually and sent through a mixer even if to monitor levels. Add an OT with its 4 outs, the A4 with its 2 outs, and a few external synths with nice filters and your mixer/interface becomes your best friend/control brain/patchbay for all your gear. I am definitely biased I guess, but to me this sounds more efficient 
overbridge is going to be awesome BUTTTTTTTTT I would love to purchase one of these soon. it’s quite expensive but I’m making it a personal goal of mine to save up for this little beast
poonti
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AR + A4 is the correct amount of KILL for techno!
Paland
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[quote=““invisible acropolis””]
[quote=“Paland”]Guess it depends on what you’re after. I’m not looking to make the next Lady Gaga hit with pristine mastering and a perfect mix. I’m looking to experiment and have fun in a live-oriented setup. That’s where Elektron really shines for me.
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does quality audio production only apply to billboard top 40 for you?
also - im not sure why you would need to bring that kind of psychological defense mechanism into this, but i can guess[/quote]
You said you didn’t understand. I tried to explain how i do it and why. Simple as that.
sweeeet tune dude! … really nice production! … post more vids, do some tuts, good stuff!
nnbveh
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sweeeet tune dude! … really nice production! … post more vids, do some tuts, good stuff![/quote]
Thanks for your kind words! lots of stuff to learn, but i’m getting there, will record something later again, if anything decent comes out of my efforts.
I have to say with the cash in hand the thought did cross my mind to try and get both the A4 and the AR…I do have some other synths at home (Moog Slim Phatty and Virus TI) and could use the drum machine more I think. The problem becomes the availability. 
Also, this will be my first Elektron purchase and while I’ve been making electronic music since 1999 I’ve heard about the steep learning curve of Elektron’s gear/sequencer (I’m currently putting together a new album). I guess it comes down to whether the RYTM is such a game-changer that it should be the priority or if it’ll be a wise decision to hold off.
nnbveh
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That’s how it gonna be, now just learning the stuff and patiently waiting for the Overbridge
nnbveh
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And the first demo track made with A4+AR…:
does quality audio production only apply to billboard top 40 for you?
also - im not sure why you would need to bring that kind of psychological defense mechanism into this, but i can guess[/quote]
You said you didn’t understand. I tried to explain how i do it and why. Simple as that.[/quote]
but why did you avoid my follow-up question? isnt there a simple answer for that as well?’
i bet there is!
