If you’re a student (or know a student - Totum cards are easy to get…) you can get 10% of the new MBPs. Means you don’t have to worry about flying to New York and customs issues on way home ha!
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I looked again… my config would cost 5.459,00€ … uh oh
Yeah, it’s a bit much. I think I will settle with an M1 Pro but then I think that I get double the memory bandwidth and double the memory with the Max. Gash I need to think about it for some time. In the end, it’s a lot for a computer.
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…yeah…somebody correct me if i’m wrong…but is’nt the euro still a little heavier in exchange course compared with the damned petro dollar world currency nr. 1…?
cause, holy cow…i was on the main apple web site in first place…was a little shocked when i saw the actual pricetag of my most favourite configuration, only to end up even way more shocked once i really picked my machine together within an european appleshop…
and placing an order for it in sweden seems even worse than in germany…
what’s going on, cupertino…?
really hate to be a first adopter…but too much stuff to get done this winter with this cpu monster…
while comparing m1 pro to m1 max…all that max really really makes nothing but a lttle final xtra difference in speed and multitasking for the top notch pro end users that must work on special tasks in realtime visual estate on point and hard deadlines…for all others, it’s really the same thing end of all days…
8GB or 16GB?
Just to let everone know, I was quite baffled with the prices but (as far as I understood) with these silicon chips, we don’t need to spec out to max like we were doing on intel configs. If I understood right, your ssd is also can be used a part of ram so even an 16gig ram would be sufficent.
And for the GPU part - unless if you’re doing models for pixar, we might not even need one as the CPU and GPU is shared in between for computations.
BUT please take my ilitatre comments with lots of grains of salt as I’m still trying to understand new jargons. And I’m wrong please correct me. I’m planning to get one - probably the lowest spec 14?
Im not sure but I compared Swedish krona to dollar and euro is about 10. something in exchange.
Yeah, Apples prices have been like this for as long as I remember in Sweden but it’s getting worse. And people that have talked about that the pricing on the M1x computers will decrease just because Apple does the chips themselves got fooled.
Import and taxes does not cost around 1200€. Apple knows that they can make us pay that much here unfortunately.
One question is the M1 Max processor stronger than the M1 Pros or is the difference between them in just the RAM memory bandwith and more RAM memory and better GPU performance?
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Don’t forget sales tax. I used to work at the apple store in SF and it always caught foreign visitors off guard. Also regarding the customs thing - just set it up while you’re there and ditch the box. Also buy a sleeve and take it in your hand luggage. Customs guys won’t give a shit if you’re carrying a laptop because so many people do. I did this a number of times in my trips back and forward
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…as far as i understood it, the m1 pro is all it needs…and the max version has only more gpu power to offer on top of that, plus as u mentioned the additional option to max out ram even to 64 gigs…which all reslults in another 3 times faster overall processing kind of thing…
and that’s really only needed for, well, those who really need that…
in essence, nothing that could’nt be done also on the smallest version…it only takes a few seconds longer and u can’t push the overall realtime requests that much to further limits a little more…
and hell yeah…this is all a bit eyewashing for now, since this new generation of chips are actually not only bigger better faster cooler and way more efficient in power but also way more cheaper, means also costwise way more efficient for them to produce end of the day and in first place…all chipset variations now come from the exact same production processing… they “stamp” their new nanoprocessing level as a one way ticket kind of thing and simply “break” that same chip product only into 2 same pieces once they sell u a “smaller” machine…which is a huuge costreduction for them for the very first time…
selling many different products, all based on the exact same product…
a win win win as never before…
and for now, they take pretty shamelessly all possible advantage out of that simple truth…as they do with knowing where to squeeze even more money out of all that…over here, in that other first world thing called europe…
but hey…if u can…u can…and for now, they defenitly can…
so everybody who can afford to wait til next year…better wait a little longer…we will see big price downgrades for the exact same quality pretty soonish…
Okay, that’s what I thought.
Do you think Apple will drop their prices next year?
…not too obvious…but slowly and surely…
all next generations for quite some years to come will all do just little better and better, but will all based on that same, then already “old” thing…sold as brandnew and groundbreaking each time again…of course…but the truu realestate progress in cpu meets efficiency progress happened already last year…
from now on, they will play the intel game…just on their own behalf and without the need to actually really create next new innovations…cause that’s what they just and already did…
and well…they know it…
which is a little perverted, but that’s capitalism, innit…and also totally ok…
gives them the advantge to smooth things even further out and to stay ahead of the whole game for quite some time to come…
Don’t you think they will take advantage of today’s price point, even if the production cost for them is lower? These M1 Pro + Max prices are an indication of that. At least what I can see.
…yup…but that’s a moment in time…next year cupertino will present the very very best quarter sales and profits ever and start to finally conquer all that gaming ballpark…the last target they did not catched up on for real yet…
and once that mission is fulfilled, and even playstation and co are out of the game, it’s really time to get afraid of cupertinos california woke cup…then they’re finally really too big to fail…and such things never had happy endings in history…but that’s all tomorrows parties…
for now, let’s accept, they got the best computing tools to offer…
so let’s harvest from and with their tools…
but everybody who’s into creating content, better be aware of getting a full fledged mac mini something end of next year, freeze it’s status quo and work with that tool for kind of ever while never ever let it go online again, no matter what next new fancy updates are calling for u…
next stop left then, is only all the VR planet…
and at least i don’t wanna end up in the matrix… 
or even in suckerbugs wet dream of the metaverse…
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Could give a shit what it does. Just want to know if stuff werks in Monterey. I stay up to date for security, not for bells and whistles.
Was holding off on Big Sur cuz of animation shit i was doing. And didn’t want to be stuck with software that didn’t werk.
Took 16 because I could. But I don’t think it’s relevant. here’s a shot of my ram usage right now (with IDEs, browser and all):
4.66G just for for files cache… so basically useless given the SSD.
One of my friends develops VST plugins, which means IDEs, compilers, DAW instances for tests, etc… and he has the 8GB model.
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Well, I caved and ordered a 14" M1 Pro, I bumped up the SSD to 1TB but otherwise left it stock. It should future proof me for quite a few years, hopefully. I’m excited for a fan noise-free future! And being able to run Izotope Iris 2 and use more than a couple of voices at a time 
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I did add 10% sales tax, not sure if that is in ball park of the actual amount these days.
I know about ditching the box trick and bringing it in hand luggage. But strictly speaking, it is still illegal. 
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Lat night I woke up in the middle of the night with the thought “You should cancel your MBP order. It’s not something you need” and I felt lousy about it. I reached for my phone, and hesitated, and decided to sleep on it.
When I woke up, and thought “OK, should I cancel my order?” I was immediately met with “no way!!!” and was genuinely excited that I ordered one. Funny how your brain assesses things internally.
My thinking now is that I’ll have a period of time to make sure this is a good investment.
Regarding the high cost, yes the prices are pretty ridiculous.
But - I do think the value is also very high. If you start listing out all the advantages it looks like they invested a lot into pushing boundaries of the hardware.
If I compare my 2020 Intel based MBP to what I ordered (a 14" MBP M1 Max with 24 cores, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD)
Apple Silicon / ARM <<< this is a big factor to me
Improved multi-processing
Runs cooler (well hopefully, we’ll see)
Improved display with 120Hz support
Improved mic and speakers
Better camera
Faster SSD (and twice the size)
Faster memory (and twice the amount)
Significantly upgraded GPU
Embedded hardware for encoding and decoding (this will be important to me if OBS leverages it for streaming)
Multi-monitor support (if I ever want to make a music war room)
My current MBP is a solid system, and overall I’m very pleased with it. However, my timing of getting one was pretty bad. I feel that at this point very few (ok, possibly no one ) will spend time optimizing code for Intel on MacOS, as it’s clear Apple Silicon is the future for Apple.
One limit I’ve run into recently is that when I make YT videos, my current MBP can’t deal with higher resolutions than 720P in OBS without the fans kicking into overdrive. It’s loud and the mic picks it up. I want to get back to making more YT videos.
And finally… I don’t like when I take my current MBP over to the couch, and it’s like holding a hot pan on your legs.
There! Now I’ve justified my impulse purchase!
I just need to wake up tonight and cancel my order to make this a complete waste of everyone’s time
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I’ve heard this from other people as well, that RAM just is not such a big factor with these Macs. But I must be honest, I don’t understand why. RAM is still faster than SSD, so in your example of 4GB being used for file cache that extra RAM is giving you a performance boost, no?
I picked one up recently, and love it so far. The only thing I don’t like is that I can’t run my Schematic Capture and PCB Layout software on it. I had a VM for that before, but that won’t work now. However, my house is set up with excellent networking (fiber between floors, Gb copper in any room that matters, and good WiFi) so I can just RDP into one of my overkill PCs, and do it from any room of the house on the M1 MBP. Plus, simulation times are insane since those PCs are so powerful. The other item is that Izotope has not updated Ozone 9 for Apple Silicon yet. (I guess they’re working on it, but they seem to have prioritized their other products for some reason, which I feel is backwards.) Otherwise, I’m absolutely loving my M1 MBP. Very happy I picked it up.