I was hoping Apple would keep the regular but redesigned 16-inch MBP with an M6/M7 chip (that i would buy) and just add a separate ultra-spec’d, ultra-expensive model on top of the lineup.
And till then use an Air or a low secd MBP.
Will probably buy an Air 15 inch but i need to check that demo MBP 14 inch unit out; for 1570 euros is tempting tbh
Sounds like you need a 16” MBP 
Just save a little more and snag one now.
It’s amazing how long they’ve kept that chassis design around. Kinda wonder if they’ll slightly slim things a bit and lower the weight after this chunky phase.
I used to be an MBP user through and through, but I’ve had the M2 Air pretty much this whole generation and it’s been absolutely fine. That said I don’t think I hit things as hard as I used to.
Good luck with whatever you go for. The latest MBP’s only came out in March, it’s probably at least 12-15 months before the next versions.
Edit: Also - I see they only do these weird 24gb multiples of RAM now, or 36gb , on the Pro’s… How lol. 24 it is then i guess.
Hehe… yes, and i was set on a M5 MBP 16 inch for 3000-4000 euros but after i read about the rumor about the redesign i decided to wait a year or two and just buy whatever now.
The more i read about an 15 inch AIR im closer to buying it. Does your Air throttle much? What kind of work can it handle?
It’s honestly very surprising. It handles anything I throw it. But I haven’t been in a situation where throttling has really presented itself.
It does get hot, for sustained workload stuff. But mostly I’m not in that space as much anymore - I have a PC with a 5070ti where I do graphics intensive things these days if I need to. But that said, the Air basically holds its own anywhere. It’s only super intense realtime graphics stuff like games or Houdini/Unreal/Notch type shit where i need the 5070ti.
One example I can give for the Air, is just to compare it to an old iMac I had. I had two different gen iMacs actually. And on both I did some quite intensive projects. One was a render out of After Effects and the other was a realtime 3D software.
At those times (2010 and 2015) the iMac was absolutely needed for more juice over the MBP at the time.
But I can now run those projects absolutely fine on my 13” MacBook Air. The old render took me an entire day on the iMac - the M2 Air took just 20 mins. Likewise my 3D project which used to need an iMac level to run, ran fine on my MacBook Air.
I haven’t really done a 2 hour live AV set or anything like that. For short burst stuff it’s absolutely fine. For audio it’s always fine as well - I remember Wavetable in Live use to really push my previous systems, but the Air has no problems with it.
I think if you’re at all worried about throttling, get a Pro, but I personally haven’t experienced any throttling that’s limited my workflows in the 3 years or so that I’ve had it.
I actually don’t think I would buy a Pro ever again, the value proposition of the Air is just too good for the extra thousands you throw into a Pro.
But everyone’s different, if you’re in an intense creation phase and really push your system, the Pro might be more for you.
Something I realised about myself is having a super powerful machine doesn’t always mean I’m being powerfully creative. I like being lightweight and doing things minimally and managing system overhead, buts that just my angle I guess.
One stupid question… would this configuration hold for music production NOT based on heavy use of samples:
Macbook Air 15 inch M5
16 gb RAM
512 gb storage
I’m not sure about the RAM bc it has passive cooling 
I’ve narrowed it down to these two options that are actually available to me right now:
14-inch MacBook Pro M5 16GB/1TB = 2250 euros
15-inch MacBook Air M5 16GB/512GB = 1670 euros
its very difficult to judge but my mate was recently complaining that his m5 air gets hotter than the previous ones w/ very light tasks. so some cpu heavy plugins could prolly do the same pretty easily.
second hand Mx Pros are imho better. my m1 pro still balls through big sessions no issue
Noooo 
back to the drawing board
Couldn’t find meaningful solutions on second hand market in my area
Tbh the difference in screen sizes between 14 and 15 inches is bigger than i thought /looking at them in a store rn
Go air for screen space, you can see more stems at the same time, bigger trackpad, etc. Or go 16”
Bought an M5 AIR 15 inch 
Thnx everyone for your patience and help! 
Hope it serves you well. I’m sure it will be awesome.
I bought an M4 Air 13.whatever. I love it.
How are you getting on with it? It’s been useful seeing your posts because I’m making the exact same decision atm 15” MBA or 16GB 512GB MBP (both M5)