Anyone using Renoise?

taxhaven · 2021-05-12T06:06:16.172Z

i’ve been tempted by redux lately, anyone using that but not renoise proper?

Boxymusic · 2021-05-13T22:47:22.399Z

I can’t get on with redux - bug fan of Renoise - Redux is very powerful, but I just can’t get behind the pattern paradigm in redux. Having said that renoise is soooo cheap for what it is, and you get redux with it I think.

Boxymusic · 2021-05-13T22:51:52.216Z

Something people don’t seem to mention much when they talk about renoise is that it just sounds so good. I don’t know why, but to me it sounds just crisp and clean, and the inbuilt effects are great.

You can use fx chaining basically like a modular synth, the sound creation options are just so deep.

I’ve been beating myself round the head trying to enjoy ableton as much, because there are a couple of things you just can’t do in renoise (like work with long vocal tracks or real instrument recordings easily).

Also arranging whole tracks in renoise basically hasn’t been bettered. It’s so easy to create pattern, structure and variation with the arranger section. I wish they’d put something like that in ableton session view.

100% sequence in renoise. If you can get your head around hexadecimal then, as an Elektron user, you’ll transition quite well - I found the journey in the other direction pretty easy.

Don’t know about sequencing hardware though. Never done it with that.

Boxymusic · 2021-05-13T23:00:33.778Z

Here’s a track I made with all native and onboard renoise effects

Ryan · 2021-05-13T23:05:51.402Z

I need to get into redux badly.

I’ve just been using Renoise as basically electronica sheet music.

But if I got into the phrases, and maybe sequenced with Nodal…

You’d have a stew going

brodykauff · 2021-05-13T23:09:10.487Z

Wish there were comprehensive tutorials online, like on macprovideo/askaudio. I find the official tutorials quite dry and not very in depth.

I’ve tried YouTube, but most of the tutorials feature Jungle or DnB, which I really dislike. Not into Chiptune either. Haha. Makes it tough as far as tutorials go.

Ryan · 2021-05-13T23:30:36.883Z

Right! I was looking all over for some $40 Master Renoise course online- nada

Maybe there just really isn’t that much to doing it to it.

Sequencing
Track automation
Sampling
Slicing
Phrases
Composition
Midi at some point

Other elements are less learning and more exploring- assigning FX to sounds and/or tracks being the first one

What more do you need?

acidhouseforall · 2021-05-13T23:42:35.838Z

Boxymusic:

Something people don’t seem to mention much when they talk about renoise is that it just sounds so good. I don’t know why, but to me it sounds just crisp and clean, and the inbuilt effects are great.

The 0-clipping output (if you let Renoise adjust the master) does a lot here.

Boxymusic · 2021-05-13T23:59:34.259Z

True. I don’t just think it’s that, but it’s a really good example of some the attention to little details in renoise.

brodykauff · 2021-05-14T00:53:07.799Z

Phrases is one that confuses me almost as much as Parts on the OT.

brodykauff · 2021-05-14T01:02:46.095Z

I think I’m going to put the hardware away for a few weeks and really try to explore Renoise some more. I think it’s worth the time and might be inspiring.

Ryan · 2021-05-14T01:23:12.655Z

Agreed. Phrases is a tricky thing to wrap my head around.

The concept I get. Like mini patterns- if you’ve got a 4 to the floor going on, then just use that as a phrase instead of punching in every. single. kick.

Execution however- woo baby. That’s hard to wrap my head around.

I suppose it’s mostly for jungle/dnb. But for melodic instruments it’s an interest way to have dynamic arps.

Like an exchangeable elektron arp

acidhouseforall · 2021-05-14T12:55:28.864Z

Back when the defunct Arguru used to develop the ancestor of Renoise (Noisetrekker), there was a lot of discussion about sampling interpolation too. Anyway, it’s true that when using Renoise the sound is so good, to the point where I don’t feel like adding much effects to my samples.

Bunker · 2021-05-14T14:09:45.496Z

Tried various DAW’s, came from an OTB background and stumbled across Renoise years ago. It’s still my go to bit of kit for quickly getting ideas down… and then expanding on them…then mixing them and finally getting a finished track. Love it.

Misanthropic_Friend · 2021-05-14T15:16:34.001Z

Renoise is the only music creating tool on the computer that I’ve used and had fun at the same time.

I really would love to dive into it a lot more. Plus it’s hella cheap for what it is.

Ryan · 2021-05-14T15:18:01.668Z

Misanthropic_Friend:

Plus it’s hella cheap for what it is.

Agreed. It’s one of those products where I wish I had to pay for OS updates

sabana · 2022-03-27T13:06:58.531Z

Ive been an Ableton guy for years. Before that it was cakewalk. Now ive bought a Polyend Tracker i like the workflow and is very easy to create tracks from. What are the disadvantages though? Does it accept all VST’s?

anokah · 2022-03-27T13:11:40.025Z

The disadvantages to renoise? Well, the input method isn’t to everyone’s liking. It can be a bit hard to wrap ones head around some basic features, like automation. But, in general the downsides are pretty much on par with all other daws. Vsts work fine

Ryan · 2022-03-27T13:16:11.964Z

sabana:

What are the disadvantages though?

From my personal experience, I ran into a hiccup in my workflow when working with editing tracks consisting of external instruments.

The initial bounce and output was fine. But when I went back to tweak a few things and export individual tracks it was kinda a nightmare.

I don’t know if its possible to record multiple tracks as samples all at once to return to- but thats the only thing that DIDN’T feel intuitive.

On a separate note, I’ve been looking all over the internet for a computer keyboard that has a velocity sensor and I’m wondering how difficult it would be to build a keyboard from scratch

Mumdad · 2022-03-27T13:24:16.207Z

Velocity sensitive keys (coloured black and white to correspond correctly, of course) with a Thinkpad trackpoint in the middle is my ultimate Renoise dream.