Anyone using a Bitstream 3x?

ehm · 2013-12-26T18:44:38.000Z

I had one.

once I figured it out I really liked it. I used it with Ableton Live for a couple of years until I replaced it with a Jazzmutant Lemur.

it’s built tough too.

secmast · 2013-12-26T18:51:02.000Z

And the guy sell the company to that chinese CME and all disappear.
I use it for some of my synth, but mainly for my Radias board inside the M3 as there is toooooooo many menu/screen to configure it. The bitstream is doing like a charm sending 16bytes sysex to it without any errors for the last 3 years now.
Still haven’t find any other 20bytes sysex capable unit on the market.

AMENU · 2016-01-17T13:29:19.000Z

im using one , to have a hotspotmatrix of my elektron gears only . its fantastic an rich for now to change values with one matrix for 3 devices. cause its the opening for so much posibbilitis i will describe here the midichannelsetting after my configurationproblems.
if i had checked that the different midchannels mean the “fixed channels” all was ok . the hexadezimal values for the midistrip i found in the “renoize” midimonitoring funktion so i couldnt find in a preset menue of the bistream. download every potisetting seperatly or download all ready setting to the bitstream hardware. but dl-all submit all 21 groups - large file

first steps with easy words: for every poti seperatly : make your channel fix, set value one (v1)to 3 and value 2 (v) to 0 write the midistrip(you will find it;) ), rename the lcd and all would be ok if your midi out and out 2 is enabled.

configure the bitstream hardware without the pc/mac is not posibble in the full spektrum of the functions.
the bitstreamhardware dont have a fullrange menue to set all of the posibble configurations .

the fixed midichannel : the channel wich is free available to each controlpoti/fader/knob . the fixed midichan .can be difficult in one group or the others if you like. (this for all they dont know about the possibilitis of the bitsstream 3x)
the midi channel position must be set to 0 , then you get the poti/fader fix to a channel you want.

value numbers : is the number that signing the range of the midstrip. your message will be 1 function ?so the message have 3 couples of 2 numbers or letters ( B0 -54 - 00 )
the midistrip: are hexadecimal command .it can be 1 command pro poti . more than one command pro poti? -equalize the controlvalueposition to make that . but if you reach that you have understand what a control value position vs a midistripe is^^

one command - poti controlls the delay sent (MM) = B0 54 00 wtf^^

B0 is a device id command and his channel.
0 is the base channel (1 =channel2)
(think about channel position here and you understand the “must be” of the fix)
B is the monomachinemessagestyle (why B ? i dont know )
f.e. the F = Funktion - start, stop so on. maybe industrial standarts for he basicly levels of machinecontroling

54 is the command(CCnumber) (on the MM - delay send) .
why ? i think the delay is in the MM menue on stage 4 the fifth poti. but its a elektron CC nummber.

00 is the parametervalue to make shure - "control the value variable by a poti "etc.(0-127)
so the message has 1 comand only you has 3 positions with messages-machine-CC - and the last is the value - therefore write 3 in “control value position number (v1)” than the bitstream knows where is to find the value position in your midistrip if you set one command pro poti.

download you setting to the bitstream (seperatly pro poti or all org and enjoy

that for now - and its only the basic for mapping but good to know.

i hope you can understand my describtion and my english ^^

peace pics and greets

PeterHanes · 2016-01-18T01:43:24.000Z

""AMENU"":

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B0 54 00 wtf^^

B0 is a device id command and his channel.
0 is the base channel (1 =channel2)
(think about channel position here and you understand the “must be” of the fix)
B is the monomachinemessagestyle (why B ? i dont know )
f.e. the F = Funktion - start, stop so on. maybe industrial standarts for he basicly levels of machinecontroling

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Bn is the standardized hexadecimal status byte value for a MIDI Control Change message sent on MIDI channel n.

Fn is the standardized hexadecimal status byte value for a MIDI System message, where n is the code that defines which instruction is being sent.

http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midimessages.php

cop_porn · 2017-02-07T02:00:58.602Z

I just cannot figure that out myself and didn’t find any info. My hypothesis is that if Octatrack could manipulate Bitstream’s faders via audio-cc out midi messages (which are available via OT scenes), then maybe setting group chains in Bitstream could somehow fill the shortage of the MIDI scenes functionality of the Octatrack. But I cannot figure out if Bitstream can receive external MIDI CC#s and allow them to virtually twist its own faders.

PeterHanes · 2017-02-07T01:58:11.294Z

Can CME Bitstream 3X receive MIDI CC#s? (as a replacement for the absent "MIDI scenes" of the Octatrack)

I cannot figure out if Bitstream can receive external MIDI CC#s and allow them to virtually twist its own faders.

The MIDI implementation of the Bitstream 3X given on pages 68 to 74 of its manual show that it can be controlled by SysEx messages, not by CC messages.

The schematic on page 25 of the manual shows that the Bitstream 3X’s physical controls are not linked to its MIDI/USB input ports.

The only other messages that the B3X can respond to are clock and transport messages, or note messages to trigger its arpeggiator.

The Octatrack cannot send SysEx messages intended for another device.

sezare56 · 2017-02-07T03:39:30.550Z

The Bs3x can chain faders with different CC and different ranges, so it can act as scenes, and you can control it directly on the Bs3x.

I have an Event Processor + and I want to use it to map Ot’s CC48 crossfader to A4 macros and Blofeld Matrix, so it will act as midi scenes controlled by crossfader

Ted · 2018-04-10T06:02:12.015Z

I seem to remember but now can not find a Bitstream 3X library for the Blofeld. Did I make that up? Does anyone still have a copy of this?

Ted · 2018-04-10T06:20:23.934Z

Nevermind. I found it.

I downloaded the .bs3 file a while back - even tho I didn’t have a Blofeld at the time - just in case. Good thing I had because the original link stopped working.

Anyway, for anyone curious, here’s a link:

CME WaveIdea Bitstream 3x custom library / template for Waldorf Blofeld - https://www.dropbox.com/s/i64bao1nbjlht98/Blofeld.zip?dl=0

sicijk · 2018-04-10T06:40:29.038Z

Hey there…might you have the factory library of the Bitstream 3x?

I have lost mine…

Ted · 2018-04-10T06:59:50.660Z

Yeah,

All the factory-type stuff should still be here:

http://www.waveidea.com/en/products/bitstream_3x/downloads.php#doc

The latest software is open source and available at GitHub:

GitHub

waveidea/bs3x

bs3x - Bitstream 3X repository

I have an older MacBook running 10.7.5 which lets me run the configuration software.

sicijk · 2018-04-10T07:29:35.796Z

Ted:

http://www.waveidea.com/en/products/bitstream_3x/downloads.php#doc

I cannot find the Factory Libraries though…only two Users Libraries for Logic 8 and Mackie Control v3.

Ted · 2018-04-10T08:42:48.637Z

I don’t know of any others in that case…

Ted · 2018-04-10T08:43:28.033Z

What was in these factory libraries?

sicijk · 2018-04-10T09:05:47.993Z

Do not remember. Just curious if there would be something useful for actual setup.
Whatever… It can be easily set up and customized to many many needings!
Thanks for your kind and quick help anyway

space_skeleton · 2018-06-18T15:03:11.630Z

Hey, I have a few questions that I haven’t really been able to find the answers to. I picked one of these up for my Analog Rytm and it’s working well, but I kind of want a few more features and wondering if the bitstream can actually do the things I want.

I’d like it if I could send a level control to two instruments at the same time, eg have the Open and Closed hats level chained, as they’re using the same machine, and I don’t have 12 faders. I guess I could put them on the knobs, but it seems kind of wasteful (I’d rather use this for send effect levels/filter/resonance). Is it possible to use chained midi messages to send out double CC information on two different channels?

Thanks for any help!

PeterHanes · 2018-06-18T15:14:18.000Z

space_skeleton:

Is it possible to use chained midi messages to send out double CC information on two different channels?

Yes. Check the section of the manual titled “Chain of controls” (page 26 and 32).

phesago · 2018-06-18T15:43:12.590Z

And to further elaborate on this - the free Software editor is a must with this device. Its really really easy to use. You can basically “chain” cc’s all over the place. Each “control” on the unit can chain cc’s. Its essentially a “scene machine” if you think about it in elktron terms.

Down load the software - trust me. Itll make it seem like magic once you get used to it.

space_skeleton · 2018-06-18T15:44:03.868Z

From what I’ve read on that, it still requires me to waste one of my knobs for that parameter for the grouping (Eg I will have to assign a knob that track volume and then assign it to that one fader which is also controlling another CC).

Considering I’m losing out on 4 knobs on just track volumes alone, nevermind panning or FX sends… Can I go across different scenes? It doesn’t specify that (and I’m also posting without it in my face)

phesago · 2018-06-18T15:45:53.061Z

Not correct! The way its used is each knob has a cc. You chain controls. If you want filter cutoff, volume and panning. You chain knob 1 to knob 2 and knob 2 to knob 3. Make sense?