My music isn’t pop music, but I do tend to write in pop structures.
If all music is equally good then it’s all equally bad, and equally meaningless. Everybody has the right to critique music, get off this “it’s all good!” nonsense, it’s not. 95% everything is crap and always has been. Nobody is blown away by that 4th tier painter, they want to see Michaelangelo.
…hey…that’s shiny happy birdbot pop at it’s best… 
most of the time, i’m deep into darker sonic terretories…
but if it’s that conceptually clean straight forward, not taken itself too serious and meaningful, but coming for u with such an open mind…it’s simply great pop for real…
and i love to come up with all kinds of bird related stuff, while “birdbot” never crossed my mind…but nails it…
good job…whatever they say…
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…and since this is a community to hail and talk swedish music gear in first place…
let’s keep in mind, there’s no other country on the planet, that adds so much profit to their yearly bip with pop as sweden does…
not britain…not the states…but sweden.
not only because of abba…or britney spears…or new kids on the block, which would have all not happened without this obnoxious max martin…
that swedish “no name” producer who’s still up to date responsible for half of all credits in the linernotes of actual pop music…ok, not the most meaningful kind of pop, but never the less…pop.
aha…i see, errr…hear u…
once there was a time, sun was always shining on tv…long after video killed the radio star…
while pop will eat itself…come again, sam…
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The format doesn’t really suit my old man dithering, but fortunately I have a couple of pals who are more switched on. Have managed some radio play, peaking at ‘album of the day’ on Radio 6.
I don’t really like singers.
Not much of a fan of melodies.
Don’t really listen to the radio.
Not really into that whole “polished” production thing.
Key changes can fuck off as well.
I don’t really understand music, so struggle to appreciate musicality or songwriting.
To be fair, I’d probably rather listen to my tumble dryer than much in the way of “radio friendly” or pop music.
I’ve always wondered what it might sound like for me to have a go at that sort of thing though, but in truth I wouldn’t even know where to start.
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Horses for courses 
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…always like ur attitude…but no wonder, ur one of those, always love to use the same sonic escape plan by drowning everything in long wet reverbs…
and hey…i enjoyed the birdbot gibberish tune one more time…
made me nod along and smile…
mysterious, what pure pop can do…
and missed out on the very end, first time…what a good laugh…thanx, big time…
if u ever hit berlin, @norb , let’s have a coffee…
You’d be surprised how little reverb I actually use most of the time.
I’m more of a distortion guy.
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…yup…that’s the OTHER sonic emergency exit…
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I was DJing last night. People kept asking for Taylor Swift but I don’t buy pop records usually. The closest I managed was Missy “Get Ur Freak On” into the DJ Hype remix of Fugees “Ready Or Not”.
I used to be in a band that made roughly pop-formatted funk, but our lyrics wouldn’t have caught mainstream ear. These days I make shit techno and electro because I don’t have the talent for pop. (I’m gently, slowly, working on improving my techno). Slowly.)
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…missy elliot and timbo had a great take on next new thing innovative global mainstream pop…
and so did the fugees…
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I have to admit I don’t often react to messages on this forum but this take makes so little sense to me.
Most people have never cared about Michaelangelo and never will. They have heard his name once or twice and are not too sure if he was a painter… or a sculptor maybe? Or both? Most people don’t care that much about artists or the intricacies of their works. People react to art in different ways depending on their mood, their personal life context, the album art, the weather and what they had for lunch. For some people, music is a part of their life that they don’t glorify. They just bask in it once in a while, for different reasons, hence with various expectations.
To think that music must be some kind of competition to be in the top 5% of “high quality art” is close-minded technique worship at best and “contentification” of art at worst. If that’s how you like to enjoy music, by any means, have fun. But I think it’s also important to share the opposite take :
The 95% of music you think “has always sucked” may be meaningful to other people who see value in it. Judge them for it all you want. However, I suggest you don’t make the mistake of thinking that the fact you see no value in said music makes you somehow a better person than others*.
*Unless you have an objective method of determining what is inspiring and emotionally evocative music for all humans, no exception. In which case you can make claims with % in them, and probably a bit of cash as well for cracking the code to inspiration
ps: if your message was satire, it’s really good 
Some of my friends hear a connection between pop and noise. They used to DJ nights where you’d hear Prince next to [Sculpture] (https://plasticinfinite.bandcamp.com/). It was fun.
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…no great producer, that was not also a great reducer…
while anything can become pop…
not talking about sonic products for selling here…
talking about innovations…and those always come from crossing all over, that’s never been crossed before…whenever subculture gives birth to tomorrows mainstream again…
and now, i gotto leave…keep on working on my new shit…
tribal dancehall mutant mosh…
the last chapter of my sonic journey through post industrial dub pop…
as radio friendly as possible…
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About 12 years ago I got offered £5000 to make the music for Master Chef.
Being the twat I am I turned it down, because I wouldn’t have known where to start. I don’t really regret it but I do wish I had the confidence to bullshit and blag stuff.
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Think people who create hooks in music are evil. You know what your doing and its not very nice. And fuck the midi pack.
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I’ve dabbled with making music in some sort of pop song structure.
Even people who say “that sounds poppy” as a form of criticism, nevertheless love listening to and playing music that is tightly structured - by my standards. “Their” music is built around verse-and-chorus structure, and is bound by some sort of regular pulse - usually established by a drummer, drum machine, or strumming guitar… all elements found in pop music.
I just put in an order for an arranger keyboard, a type of keyboard designed for pop song forms - it has buttons for intros, verse variations, fills, outros, etc. I can’t write lyrics to save my life, so I’m not really going to make pop songs, but I look forward to exploring making music this way, after years of recording tracks without much structure or a steady beat - drone, ambient, experimental, free improv, etc.
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Missy is incredible. Total art. I like a lot of those old Timberland beats too.
It’s kind of a project/case study i often thought i should try :
Can i make a track/song that has all the requirements to fit in this kind of productions, and not sounding like a parody ?
Not something that i’d like or be proud of, but something that could act as the “real stuff” : Structure, sounds, gimmicks, hooks, drops, energy and the whole thing.
Here, i’m really thinking about obvious commercial products that would fit the trend of the year. …Can i do it ?
…But time is precious, and the Current sounds coming from your gear is way more important.
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