And again a new problem :(

poisk · 2014-07-27T17:31:17.000Z

Tonight: I’ve already have a lot of work inside, I don’t want to take to risk to reset it. My project is saved, but no I’m really afraid with this buggin’ machine.

The first time I’ve had this pb, it was with the previous OS, and now, it’s under the new one.

poisk · 2014-07-27T17:42:48.000Z

What’s really strange and badly done: the saved project has also lost the samples. Why ? How is it possible ? The project doesn’t take the samples in the saving process ?

Is there anyone from Elektron here ? Allo ?

void · 2014-07-27T17:59:17.000Z

did you delete or re-order any samples on the +drive?

the samples in the RAM are copied from the +drive to the RAM when a project is loaded (e.g. also when the machine is booted). So if you mess with the +drive sample content, be careful…

poisk · 2014-07-27T18:36:49.000Z

Yes, I’ve uploaded some new samples inside…

As I understand, the saved project only contains infos about the samples. ok.
It’s a sysex, so no problem with it.
But we should be able to dump on the computer the samples used by the project, we can dump everything excepts samples, bad idea too me.

panelist · 2014-07-27T18:48:00.000Z

In Global settings -> Sequencer config

see if ‘kit reload on chg’ is checked

it may be that if this option is checked and you are not saving your kit, then whatever changes you made to your kit (including sample assignment) may be lost when you restart the machine.

but this is just a guess

poisk · 2014-07-27T18:59:52.000Z

I save all my patterns super often, that’s not the problem

panelist · 2014-07-27T19:05:52.000Z

was the option checked?

it could still be a bug related to that option, even if you are saving your kits, so it would be worth 3 seconds of time to check

stutech · 2014-07-27T19:17:00.000Z

Just to rule out any format conversion probs, are all your samples 16/48 mono format? There might be a problem related to specific bitrate etc…

I haven’t experienced any data loss of any form so far, but will keep a look out for any losses in the future. Your using the latest OS?

poisk · 2014-07-27T19:22:09.000Z

Kit reload is not checked.

I only use 44.1/16 samples.

Dataline · 2014-07-27T19:31:23.000Z

Interesting, never encountered issue of Samples being lost.

Are you sure they were deleted from the +Drive? Or the KIT sample assignments were lost?

poisk · 2014-07-27T19:37:41.000Z

From the drive, and from the pool.

The kits still have the assignation, but the sample is missing.

I’m gonna put back all my samples and then save my project with a new name. Then, we’ll see and try to import new samples again.

Dataline · 2014-07-27T19:55:46.000Z

OK, try that.

Keep in mind that the Project does not save which samples are stored in the +drive. Project saves which samples are assigned to the Sample List in that project.

If the samples are disappearing from the +drive, that would be a different issue.

poisk · 2014-07-27T20:05:43.000Z

Thanks, I’ll check carefully now.

new save is done, i’ve reuploaded my samples, now I’m gonna import them in thepool. Then save the project again.

It would be really great to be able to export the samples uses in our projects. We have the USB, so let’s use it

Dataline · 2014-07-27T20:11:57.000Z

Yeap, I agree about exporting samples from the machine!

poisk · 2014-07-27T20:21:26.000Z

Also, in the browser, in pool, I have samples that have a mark before the ‘during of the sample’, something like that: ¤

I also have lines without samples that have this mark.

I don’t know if there’s something about it in the user manual…

secretmusic · 2014-07-28T15:25:43.000Z

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I don’t know if there’s something about it in the user manual…

There is

guga · 2014-07-28T17:03:36.000Z

mmm, pretty weird though, never had this issue with samples so far…i’ve seen there has been a long list of suggestions of things you should have looked at so hopefully you got things sorted

Monk · 2014-07-28T17:20:54.000Z

Is there a degree course in elektron machines?it would be very popular…

guga · 2014-07-28T17:28:27.000Z

poisk · 2014-07-28T21:05:52.000Z

All samples are in !, I’ve been working all day with the AR, love it again !

Thanks Secretmusic, I’ll check !