Analog Rytm video LEAKED!

ehm · 2014-04-07T06:38:59.000Z

my favorite video so far too.

but I’m a bit confused about three things
how does the same same pad triggering two sounds work exactly?

the RYTM is an 8 voice drum synth but has 12 tracks, how exactly does this work and mean?

and when laying a sample can the drum synth voice be turned off? or does they both hit at the same time?

I know if I had one in front of me I’d “get it” but it’s puzzling me right now.

ehm · 2014-04-07T06:39:58.000Z

and performance mode looks like as much fun as the Oktatrack’s fader
maybe more…

t · 2014-04-07T07:21:55.000Z

""Dataline"":

Another thing, its not important if the sound source is sample or synth. Its just great fun to have analog synth and sample in the same box and work it!

Also, keep in mind that the samples go through the analog overdrive, filter, and amp, so it’s not as if there’s a lack of sound sculpting options. Also, I’m assuming you can modulate stuff like sample start, loop points, etc. giving you even more modulation options.

With a bit of clever programming and smart selection of your source samples, you can probably create a wide range of sounds and performance setups you’d associate with 80s hybrid synths, wavetables, and classic samplers with analogue filters such as the Mirage.

Having said that, I’m still a bit sad there’s no way (yet?) to sample from the analogue inputs on the AR; I’d love to be able to sample directly from my other synths and then tweak further on the AR without having to get my laptop involved.

XanaX · 2014-04-07T07:45:59.000Z

^ yes putting samples through the analog engine is a beautiful thing however sample manipulation itself seems pretty basic on AR, for deeper stuff & on-board sampling you’ll need OT…

""ehm"":

my favorite video so far too.

but I’m a bit confused about three things
how does the same same pad triggering two sounds work exactly?

the RYTM is an 8 voice drum synth but has 12 tracks, how exactly does this work and mean?

and when laying a sample can the drum synth voice be turned off? or does they both hit at the same time?

I know if I had one in front of me I’d “get it” but it’s puzzling me right now.

i know it sounds confusing but it’s not that complicated: the synth engine has an 8 voice limit, but the sequencer allows 12 tracks/sounds. that just means you can’t play more then 8 sounds at once. i’m also pretty sure i read you can turn off a synth voice if all you want is sample playback (will probably still eat up a voice)

djd_oz · 2014-04-07T13:02:43.000Z

Extracted from the AR FAQ,

What is the Scene mode?
[justify]This mode allows the pads to control user-assignable parameters, possible to derive from the whole This mode allows the pads to control user-assignable parameters, possible to derive from the whole kit. When the mode is active, pressing a pad will instantly change the assigned parameters to their locked scene values. Several scenes can be active at the same time.

What is the Performance mode?
Performance mode is a bit similar to the Scene mode, but allows gradual control over the parameters assigned to the pads. The harder you press a pad, the more the assigned parameters will be affected. Performance parameters are possible to derive from the whole kit.
[/justify]

Veets · 2014-04-07T15:22:41.000Z

LOL, can’t wait to hear the album name. Great demo.

xmit · 2014-04-07T15:44:58.000Z

nice work Cenk. Now you’ve really got my attention
Sounds fantastic.

TrondC · 2014-04-07T17:13:24.000Z

""Veets"":

LOL, can’t wait to hear the album name. Great demo.

That’s probably the album name right there: “Dataline - Great Demo”

Tight stuff Cenk!

Mattstacks · 2014-04-07T17:38:25.000Z

""TrondC"":

[quote=“Veets”]LOL, can’t wait to hear the album name. Great demo.

That’s probably the album name right there: “Dataline - Great Demo”

Tight stuff Cenk!
[/quote]
If the song name has any bearing on the album title it would be:
Dataline, “Unauthorized Album Release”
featuring the hit single, “Leaked”

cuckoomusic · 2014-04-07T21:09:42.000Z

""XanaX"":

[quote=“djd_oz”]I believe performance mode is the same as the Analog Four and for Scenes the values jumps to the set values instead of a gradual change.

i still don’t understand the difference in between perf & scene mode… they both seem to capture several parameters under a pad? i don’t own a A4 btw so bare with me, but i do have an OT. also there is a difference with A4/OT since both scenes & perfs are playable via pad pressure on AR… definitely a new way of expression for this Elektron box…[/quote]
Performance mode is more like After Touch parameter changes. I don’t know how many parameters per pad, but probably a few. Therefore you can press several pads at once, gradually changing the different settings individually.
Scene Mode is like setting up a completely different drum kit for each scene. You could do subtle sound variations, or a completely new kit. Pressing a pad in Scene Mode will instantly change into the new settings. I guess one Scene at a time.

nirun · 2014-04-07T22:19:51.000Z

Ahhh so this is what the RED glowing pads are doing in the video I’m guessing.

Anigbrowl · 2014-04-08T04:25:14.000Z

I could have sworn I read that the scenes were stackable.

tsv · 2014-04-08T04:38:07.000Z

From the FAQ page:

This mode allows the pads to control user-assignable parameters, possible to derive from the whole kit. When the mode is active, pressing a pad will instantly change the assigned parameters to their locked scene values. Several scenes can be active at the same time.

I get the impression it’s a scene per pad but you can can several scenes active at one time.

cuckoomusic · 2014-04-08T06:00:54.000Z

[quote=“” tsv""]
From the FAQ page:

This mode allows the pads to control user-assignable parameters, possible to derive from the whole kit. When the mode is active, pressing a pad will instantly change the assigned parameters to their locked scene values. Several scenes can be active at the same time.

I get the impression it’s a scene per pad but you can can several scenes active at one time.
[/quote]

Wow. It might get totally crazy I wonder if they add the values of the active scenes or calculate the average.

PlayRecords · 2014-04-08T07:12:27.000Z

The scene features sound deep and maybe even more simply implemented than on the OT… So can you p lock parameters in real time too, so it records the lock at whatever pressure your applying?
Also would be cool to be able to make the values step too (rather than a smooth morph) at a quantised setting!! …
I was thinking it would be more of something you would need to set up values for first but maybe Botha possible, sorry if I’ve missed that.
Either way is ace tho.

tsv · 2014-04-08T14:31:44.000Z

Scene mode doesn’t respond to pressure that’s what Performance mode does.

zonta · 2014-04-09T15:45:38.000Z

Thanks for the inspirational videos dataline. This might well be my first elektron machine and its a privilidge for the elektronauts community to soon get hands on it. Any chance of a tutorial video for us elektron noobs? (me)

PlayRecords · 2014-04-09T16:18:04.000Z

[quote=“” tsv""]
Scene mode doesn’t respond to pressure that’s what Performance mode does.
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Ok thanks pal! Is it how you do it in performance mode then? Real time recording parameters to pressure?

tsv · 2014-04-09T16:34:00.000Z

I would imagine its similar to the A4 where you set your target parameters and ranges and then you are able to morph settings based on the amount of pressure applied.

I still haven’t heard whether or not scene and performance modes can be recorded. I hope so!

On the A4 they cannot.

AshramMech · 2014-04-09T16:38:26.000Z

From what I understand "Scene & Performance " mode is kind of an aggregate from the A4’s.

The design intention clearly revolves around the pads for performing, so we can only click and press to change the kit parameters. “Scene” is for assigning changes on click, performance for changes on press.

“Performance” is surely influenced by the values changed from scenes.