Analog Rytm Sound n Specs

invisible_acropolis · 2014-04-12T06:46:10.000Z

[quote=““Huck Farper””]

[quote=“AikiGhost”][quote=“dcsux”][quote=“Dapifer”]Ha, yea here’s a pic of the Karenn live setup. I’d like to see how they implement all that…
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/523366_10151159255608713_1370153892_n.jpg
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I presume you’ve seen this?

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Considering the setup its amazing how mediocre and basic the music they choose to make is. Oh well, best tow the line and gather a big crowd of “music lover” fans rather than do anything new I guess.[/quote]
This is one of the best live performances of Techno to date.
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hah, what?! hell no
you need to get out more

z01d · 2014-04-12T07:54:11.000Z

""nirun"":

i know this is off-topic, but regarding live ‘techno’ or whatever it’s called this is pretty good imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeUmTKGICPw&list=LLMTuUa5DyW8tOxrsVqataJA

Wow. Just wow. I want him to adopt me.

void · 2014-04-12T08:04:03.000Z

""z01d"":

[quote=“nirun”]i know this is off-topic, but regarding live ‘techno’ or whatever it’s called this is pretty good imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeUmTKGICPw&list=LLMTuUa5DyW8tOxrsVqataJA

Wow. Just wow. I want him to adopt me.[/quote]
must be Hector lol

launchcodemexico · 2014-04-12T18:04:31.000Z

Can this unit manipulate pure samples or does it always have to be paired with a voice?

v00d00ppl · 2014-04-12T18:27:31.000Z

""launchcodemexico"":

Can this unit manipulate pure samples or does it always have to be paired with a voice?

Yes you can. From what I read you turn down the drum voice to 0. Now you will have your own drum hit and then you can adjust parameters without an analog drum voice.

djd_oz · 2014-04-13T02:19:44.000Z

Question: Is there any point in joining the waiting list if you are in Australia? Noting that you can’t purchase from Elektron.se

Peoplemuver · 2014-04-13T07:56:01.000Z

""nirun"":

i know this is off-topic, but regarding live ‘techno’ or whatever it’s called this is pretty good imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeUmTKGICPw&list=LLMTuUa5DyW8tOxrsVqataJA

really great stuff !

analogback · 2014-04-13T08:19:54.000Z

""djd_oz"":

Question: Is there any point in joining the waiting list if you are in Australia? Noting that you can’t purchase from Elektron.se

it seems not even possible to do it… link is bum.
cant even get an AK yet, they only have one demo last week i checked it out… so dont hold your breath for a RYTM! maybe before xmas if were good

djd_oz · 2014-04-13T11:35:34.000Z

I just signed up for the waiting list, it seemed to work.

bump · 2014-04-13T12:38:34.000Z

I’ve scanned the specs, and briefly here, but does anyone know if it possible to record in beats from the pads free from quantise?

J dilla trick was to quantise the first kick only, then play everything else unquantised around to keep things tight enough and then have a human feel to it.

If it was good enough for him…

StinkyBeat · 2014-04-13T13:06:07.000Z

[quote=“” bump""]
I’ve scanned the specs, and briefly here, but does anyone know if it possible to record in beats from the pads free from quantise?

J dilla trick was to quantise the first kick only, then play everything else unquantised around to keep things tight enough and then have a human feel to it.

If it was good enough for him…

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Yes, but you only get one hit per trig. So, it you want quick repeated hit by hand you have run the machine at double, triple, or quad tempo.

bump · 2014-04-13T22:37:09.000Z

Thanks for the replay but I don’t understand what you mean.

v00d00ppl · 2014-04-14T16:34:16.000Z

""bump"":

Thanks for the replay but I don’t understand what you mean.

In an MPC all you have is a sample slot 1 for the kick and 1 for the snare.

In the rytm you have a separate machine for the kick and the snare. So each machine you want to use without quantisation will need triple or quadruple time catch up with your free handed drumming.

Anigbrowl · 2014-04-14T20:13:01.000Z

This all assumes bump wants to play in 32nd or 64th notes, as opposed to 16th notes. Unquantized != faster. I’m pretty sure the AR will allow unquantized recording, as on the OT and A4, with deviations from the quantization grid being available through micro-timing (so it’s not totally, truly unquantized, but quantized to 1/384th of a beat which is fine enough that nobody will ever hear the difference unless your track is at 25bpm or something).

Now, for 32/64 note percussion that’s going to need track multipliers. Bump, grab the Analog Four manual from the Elektron site and look up the ‘scale’ feature; basically, on any given track you can have up to 4 bars with up to 16 notes per bar; if you want more, you trade off higher resolution for shorter pattern length, eg you can get 2 bars of 32nd notes or 1 bar of 64th notes. If you want very fast percussion that is completely unquantized, this is the way to go.

However, on the AR you will also have access to a note retrigger function, which rapidly retriggers hits at quantized intervals. This is great for things like snare rolls or rapid ticky closed hat sounds, as well as strange special effects. Using note retrigger you can get multiple hits on any given 16th note step without changing the pattern scale. So you might have some rhythm like

t t t t t t ttttttttt t t t t t ttttttt t t

going in the background using quantized notes + note retrigger, and then have really loose kicks, snares and ??? going on in front of it, like the Trap music style. I’m not into Trap but there are some tracks with crazy good perscussion out there:

You could totally do this with the Analog Rytm (or the Octatrack for that matter).

v00d00ppl · 2014-04-14T23:46:33.000Z

Thanks that clears it up. This will also be my first elektron box and the only thing I’m accustomed to is the Arturia spark, MPC 60, MPC 2000XL. I’ve got a lot to learn

Dapifer · 2014-05-01T19:44:47.000Z

Anyone know are these clips all using the synth engine unless specifically mentioning samples? Not all the descriptions go into detail so I’m curious.

siddhu · 2014-05-01T21:20:11.000Z

[quote=““invisible acropolis””]

[quote=“Huck Farper”][quote=“AikiGhost”][quote=“dcsux”][quote=“Dapifer”]Ha, yea here’s a pic of the Karenn live setup. I’d like to see how they implement all that…
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/523366_10151159255608713_1370153892_n.jpg
[/quote]

I presume you’ve seen this?

[/quote]

Considering the setup its amazing how mediocre and basic the music they choose to make is. Oh well, best tow the line and gather a big crowd of “music lover” fans rather than do anything new I guess.[/quote]
This is one of the best live performances of Techno to date.
[/quote]
hah, what?! hell no
you need to get out more[/quote]
+1 ! All that gear but nothing compared to the Headless Horseman

poonti · 2014-05-01T23:19:36.000Z

Does Karen have a long neck?

PlayRecords · 2014-05-02T08:52:40.000Z

[quote=“” siddhu""]

[quote=“invisible acropolis”][quote=“Huck Farper”][quote=“AikiGhost”][quote=“dcsux”][quote=“Dapifer”]Ha, yea here’s a pic of the Karenn live setup. I’d like to see how they implement all that…
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/523366_10151159255608713_1370153892_n.jpg
[/quote]

I presume you’ve seen this?

[/quote]

Considering the setup its amazing how mediocre and basic the music they choose to make is. Oh well, best tow the line and gather a big crowd of “music lover” fans rather than do anything new I guess.[/quote]
This is one of the best live performances of Techno to date.
[/quote]
hah, what?! hell no
you need to get out more[/quote]
+1 ! All that gear but nothing compared to the Headless Horseman [/quote]
I’m guessing you know who the headless horseman is/are and what gear gets used?!

EDIT- All these new, industrial influenced artists are influencing each other like with most new music and whilst i don’t play this style particularly, i know that karren set is a landmark of the style… Hence why there getting gigs and people like surgeon are keen to work with blawan.
Comments like you need to get out more smell of needing to get out more to me…

snitch · 2014-05-02T09:59:08.000Z

ya, but still karenns music is not really “new”
the only new thing about it is the fact that they dont give a fuck about music trends and make fast, distorted, heavy, industrial techno. You know. just like everyone in the late 90s in sweden or germany did.

Pick any random TRESOR live act from the late 90s. Will sound quite the same. With less machinery btw

Dont get me wrong. i think karenn is great. heard them in berghain and it was one awesome show.