Analog Rytm MK2 initial impressions

I am reading through the manual but I wanted to ask if this was really so.
Thanks adreasroman, that’s what I wanted to hear. I can accept if this has a greater benefit and as you say “how bloody awesome it is”.
Ok I’ll be experimenting some more…

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It’ll be like playing with a new band. Awkward at first, and you wonder if you’ll ever get along with these new oddballs. Then, you learn their nuances and strengths and you’ll find a groove you otherwise wouldn’t.

It’s especially useful for consistency in sound with variations in structure over patterns.

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The system allows you to use one kit for multiple patterns if you’d like. This way you can tweak parameters live in the moment any way you wish, and still be able to maintain these changes through an amount of pattern evolutions of your choice… It’s super handy for improv and live jams.

The AR does have 128 kits and 128 patterns, so it can be set up to work like the DT if you wish, and you can save that as a project “template” or starting point. There’s an option in the menus for “kit reload on chg” that can help in this scenario to make absolutely sure every time you switch to a pattern the kit is how it was saved.
I suggest playing around with it for awhile until it sinks in though instead of going right to setting it up as above, because it has its advantages.

Be aware that on power down, only changes to the active kit (the one the AR is currently on) are saved…
This seems funny too, but it allows you to destroy all your kits by tweaking away, and not worry about reloading them all.

When you manually reload kit there’s also a “reload all kits” available if you press the right arrow.

It is a super flexible and nice system, but it might take a moment to get used to some of its behaviors/processes of loading/saving kits, etc., as your building a project.
-have fun with you drum machine!

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in my opinion bax sucks. every order i made at bax had some kind of failure. the best thing was when i ordered a a4 i received an ot (in a a4 box!) …

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Thanks Open Mike It’s nice to hear from experienced users that this system is an advantage.
I have been sending the AR into an Ableton Live set - which has been my plan all along and the result is GREAT! The AR brings a whole new dimension of sound and performance to my music.
Looking much forward to Overbridge for AR MKII!

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There’s quite a bug in my new AR MKII :face_with_raised_eyebrow:
On several occasions and at the time of writing this the Record button triggers Pad 5’s sound, switches on the “New Chain” button and tempo button so that the BPM number is displayed. Once the Record button lits up after many presses it doesn’t switch off again, only after many presses. This really sucks. Is there anything I can do? Do you think this can be solved with an OS update? Where do I report this?

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You can sign up at elektron.se, which will,give you access to the support section.

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So basically if you have 3 patterns and want say
pattern 1, Kick = no reverb
pattern 2, Kick = 1/2 reverb
pattern 3, Kick = full reverb

you should save pattern 1 with kit 1
pattern 2, kit 2 = 1/2 reverb
pattern 3, kit 3 = full reverb
? Is that how it works, like on the A4?

Sorry for the question, I’m a 1/2 hour deep on the thing.

Sure, that’s the easiest way to make sure they’re like that everytime, you have 128 kits and 128 patterns so your not really wasting a kit if you use one per pattern even for small changes…

If your just making small changes you don’t necessarily need a whole new kit. If you wanted to be able to tweak other parts of it live and carry through a few patterns, you could plock those reverb sends to your kick track’s trigs on each pattern and use the same kit, or you could make some scenes for your reverb sends and switch them manually as you progress, or even automate them with an OT midi track if you like, or, or… :slight_smile:

Im having the same exact problem , did you get to solve it ?

I got mine. Suffered several times through kits missing, project not saved properly. All user error. Where is this Elektron Transfer program the OP spoke of? I looked and couldn’t find it anywhere on the support site under the MKII stuff.

The pads are kind of stiff compared to other stuff I’ve used and they’re kind of flat to the surface, meaning not raised much. I would say that’s the only real gripe with the thing for the cost. I have about 2 hours total on the box and just getting into scenes. I do like it. No more gear for a while. I’m burned out from the wiring the other day :smiley:

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Not ready yet Elektron Transfer (only for DT and AR MKI and people need to read compatibility version with theirs OS installed)

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In the release notes, it says “Analog Rytm running OS 1.32 or higher.” Any idea what version the MKII is? I assume it’s higher and will work.

Not so fast, that approach kind of defeats the purpose of kits. Unless you’re cranking out beats like there’s no tomorrow I highly recommend leaving some gaps between patterns and reusing kits for groups of 4-8, depending on the style of your music.

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AR MK2 is running 1.40B

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I agree completely…

I’m guess the Elektron transfer is only DT and AR MKI people try to upload Firmware with it on MK2 and failed… so…

I would Stick with C6 for now until Elektron clarify things :wink: at least I have not received my AR MKII so I cannot report anything for sure.

(it still C6 on the Analog Four MK2 so … When performing the sending of the OS sysex fille, we recommend using our free SysEx utility C6. It can be downloaded from the Elektron website.)

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Really? That’s wierd. No I didn’t solve it. I opened a support ticket so we’ll see what Elektron says.
I wonder if that’s a good thing or a bad thing, that you’re having the same problem. Since I got back two days ago I didn’t have this problem. It might be a software thing then.

How about parameter locks? Don’t have a Rytm but I’m assuming Elektron hasn’t scrapped that of the roster… If you’re gonna save a new kit for every little variation of sounds you 'll soon end up with dozens of kits that get very unpractical to manage and also perform with.

If you have kit 1 on pattern 1 and you have Kit 1 on pattern 2 and adjust something, pattern one will be affected as well. So what the heck are you supposed to do besides save Kit1 pattern 2 as a different kit, like Kit2? Am I misunderstanding something?