Analog Cymbal does not react to MIDI CC

EmpireSauvage · 2024-02-03T19:40:35.923Z

Hi.

I recently got a second had Syntakt and was configuring it to respond to the Octatrack.
I successfully configured a couple of tracks sending 10 MIDI CCs on multiple tracks when I got stuck trying to configure the Analog Cymbal.

I have a strange MIDI rooting because I control a modular synth with the Octatrack and I’m somehow trying to replicate a live configuration on the Syntakt to replace the modular. I first thought I did apply two midi channels somewhere on the ST. The Analog Cymbal (track 12) is rooted to MIDI channel 16. The track triggers properly but no MIDI CC is received.

I thought there must be a bug on the OT so I assigned the Analog Cymbal to another MIDI channel. For this I used a channel that was working fine on another track of the ST and made no assignement to it. Same result: I get a trigger, but no CC message desplayed or heard on track 12…

Anyone has an idea what’s going on?
I’m using firmware 1.21

Pablo76 · 2024-04-05T18:56:44.604Z

I am encountering kind of the same issue.
Is it possible that the analog tracks are not targetable by midi cc?

What am I overlooking?

sezare56 · 2024-04-05T22:25:00.082Z

Pablo76:

Is it possible that the analog tracks are not targetable by midi cc?

Possible that manual CCs are wrong…
Can’t you control any parameter ?
Can you trigger notes ?

Pablo76 · 2024-04-06T00:33:59.036Z

Thanks for the clues. I’ll troubleshoot tomorrow and report back.

Pablo76 · 2024-04-06T07:55:20.543Z

No idea what I did wrong, but got it working now.
Must have been some kind of user error

EmpireSauvage · 2024-09-26T15:51:27.125Z

Well, you’re lucky. I’m still stuck not being able to get Analog Cymbal to react to CC…

Watto · 2024-09-29T06:07:50.172Z

Theres a whole lot of weirdness with syntakts cc assignments. Have a look at the struggles I had with octatrack controlling syntakt around sep2023 in the ST hugs thread. May be related.

I sold mine so cant be any more help sorry.

sezare56 · 2024-09-29T08:10:59.273Z

EmpireSauvage:

you’re lucky.

Me too!

EmpireSauvage:

I have a strange MIDI rooting

Apparently. Check twice, reduce setup for tests, then focus on the culprit.

Watto:

ST hugs thread

Solved issues thread?

Apparently no bug here.

Watto · 2024-09-29T11:47:16.012Z

@sezare56 are you controlling syntakt with ot in that video?

The bug i came across was explained here. SYNTAKT Bugs Thread - #412 by avantronica

As well as SYNTAKT Bugs Thread - #396 by avantronica

OP see if the issue changes if you set syntakt’s param output to CC or NRPN…

Afaik there hasnt been a fix to that bug yet, I wouldnt be surprised if there were more issues with midi implementation that hadnt surfaced yet since the once mentioned above were tbh pretty careless and embarrassing mistakes for elektron to make.

sezare56 · 2024-09-29T11:52:22.550Z

Watto:

are you controlling syntakt with ot in that video?

No, ST midi track, midi loopback.

1000% sure it works with OT.
Same control changes midi messages.

Watto · 2024-09-29T11:54:51.735Z

Difference could be ot’s bi-directional midi, @sezare56, that was what threw the proverbial spanner in the works in my case and I wonder if it is also for OP.

sezare56 · 2024-09-29T11:58:41.157Z

Watto:

could be ot’s bi-directional midi,

Off topic.
Btw I didn’t get what is buggy in the bugs thread.
Bi-directional cannot work with NRPN.

Watto · 2024-09-29T12:05:19.537Z

EmpireSauvage:

I recently got a second had Syntakt and was configuring it to respond to the Octatrack.

Not off topic @sezare56

Anyways, goodluck @EmpireSauvage.

sezare56 · 2024-09-29T12:40:37.868Z

Not a question of luck, but settings.

Watto:

Not off topic @sezare56

This topic seems specific to Analog Cymbal machine, control it with CCs.
Not a bi-directionnal problem with OT. I can try if you wish, if you sum up (maybe in bug thread).