An idea for kits on the DT

Since 1.30 you can set the mixing levels of all tracks globally which solved a lot of “kit issues” for me:

Added a GLOBAL FX/MIX menu item in the SETTINGS menu. In the GLOBAL FX/MIX menu, you have the option to set the parameters on the DELAY, REVERB, COMPRESSOR, INTERNAL MIXER, and EXTERNAL MIXER parameter pages to be global (making any change to these parameters affect all patterns in the project and not only the active pattern).

An older trick makes you copy / paste “kits” to another pattern: Digitakt Unofficial Guide - #122 by obk

And you can export / import sounds to the sound pool and reimport those in patterns where you need them.

With a bit of planning and some structured working, all of this is more than enough “kit funtionality” for me.

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Right, but that’s assuming you’re using the same sounds for every track in all 128 patterns. The copy/paste kits thing is good if you’re using the exact same kit in every pattern, too. Otherwise, you still have to do things individually. Also, IIRC, when you copy/paste/load sounds, the mixer volumes and trig page settings don’t always copy over correctly, which can cause other issues. None of those ideas/solutions allow for tweaking live across chained patterns, though, which is a big part of this.

My whole point is that this feature would allow you to lock/sync individual tracks across multiple patterns, either per bank or per project, to speed up workflow and allow for chained patterns that are being tweaked live to carry over to the next pattern.

Trust me when I say that I have spent the last 1.5 years working on streamlining and organizing this live set, and I’ve explored a multitude of ways to address this. That’s how the idea I proposed in the original post came to light. I realize not everyone wants full on kits, and I’m sure there are many people who are not interested, but we’ve also seen interest in the feature request thread, and I think my idea would satisfy both types of users.

@PekeDorty I definitely had that user experience when I started, then I learned my gear and realized how invaluable it is to have linked patterns/tracks. TBH, I wish all the Elektron machines would implement it in the way I suggest. That would allow every machine to be even more flexible for full song composition and arrangement.

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I totally get it… and I would envy that feature (for all units - like A4, AR!!)! Elektron sadly diversifies their gear still with features to let you buy all of them. That mindset needs to change first which I don’t think will happen over night (if ever…) … because it works so well (I own all of their latest gear after the mk1/MnM/MD besides the AH)

Oooph. Don’t get me started on that whole diversified gear thing…

I’d accept the lack of overlapping features if the boxes synced up properly (pattern change issues, anyone?!?), and had more similar interfaces/UIs - why do the Rytm, DT, and OT, which can all do sampling, have such drastically different sample management and interactive user pages, for example. The DT SRC page is, overall, the best out of all 3, IMO.

With those 2 oddities, it makes it so that even if you have multiple boxes, they don’t all actually work the same in some of the basic functions, nor can they reliable communicate with each other when you’re mixing pattern lengths and time divisions.

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My big suggestion for Elektron is: Please ONE base OS with same UI/UX across all devices. Easier to maintain, add features for the whole range all at once at the same time.

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See, here I am just asking for a slightly better track link/management feature, and you have to go and ask them for some crazy hairbrained idea like similar UI experiences. INSANE!!! :slight_smile:

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Kits would make the Digitakt even better for me. Why do spme people have a problem if some of us would like to have the option? I don’t get it.

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it’s called trauma! I have to take lithium twice a day because of kits!

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opt-in is a good idea (similar to how different length tracks is an opt-in “advanced feature”)

I think the one thing I’d tweak on your proposal is to have a kit mapped to the bank+track rather than to a sound. So for Bank A, Pattern 2, Track 1 you could toggle between the non-kit sound (default) and kit sound (same for all patterns in Bank A).

That way you don’t really need to touch the Project layer at all or risk projects affecting each other by changing sounds.

I would love to have some type of kit functionality as well. And it’d be great to be able to set each track to have base parameter values assigned at either a Project, Bank, or Pattern level. That way, for example, I could have my kick on track 1 persist throughout a whole bank, but have other tracks dedicated to shifting with each pattern.

For me it’s slightly less important for drums, but for synth sounds it’s really useful to have continuity (for me at least) in most instances when moving from pattern to pattern. That’s the main reason I sequence my Digitone with my Digitakt: so that when I tweak parameters leading up to a change, the sound doesn’t snap to something else after the change occurs.

@slicetwo As workaround, since you’re also using an OT, you might consider using its MIDI tracks to sequence your DT and DN.

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I tried using the OT to sequence the other gear, but I use a lot of plocks and s sound locks, which are a pain to transfer over. Sometimes, I use the OT LFOs for the DT/DN, though.