This is all good discourse but the thread might be veering outside of the range which is going to help bartlebytaco find peace with his MPC.
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Well he mentioned gelling more with Elektron boxes and I answered what I find concerning regarding what having MPC could add to my Elektron oriented workflow.
Like @Kegeratorz i came for/with the arguments and find the thread to be very relevant to its Title. In fact, I’m shocked @shigginpit didn’t have the perfect argument covered with just a meme.
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I just got a MPC One and I’m really enjoying it.
Previously used other “grooveboxes”. Elektron, Roland MCs, M8.
The workflow takes some getting used to but I don’t find it slow…just more depth available.
I didn’t know I wanted a piano roll or a song grid but those are really helping me map out sections and songs.
The MPC is a good intersection of many ways to make music.
I personally, can’t make music on PC because of the temptation of distraction.
In the end, use what you like and forget the rest.
If a DAW is a better fit, then go for it.
Thread over. lol
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I only bumped the topic to try and be helpful to the OP 
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I can dig it. Pretty sure you’d easily win the award for most helpful ‘Naut. 
IMO. The op has a good plan in giving it a solid 3 months time to evaluate thoroughly.
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I want a better midi sequencing tools, and just make the grid edit easier to use. Its why I say just add mouse support if you can’t be bothered. Doing micro edits is a pita. I know people are going to cry but what is the difference between me plugging or using a wireless mouse than you you plugging in a midi keyboard which makes it even less portable and takes more space. For me if they resolve that issue I be more happy.
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it’s sorta the one thing I have issue with too. if they’d add a cheeky physical 16 step sequencer lane along the bottom of the unit I’d be all over it.
I had a Live II retro for a while. it was a thing of beauty but alas I’m very into me step sequencing so I’m more suited to elektronzz.
Yeah like the Move, or similar to the chordbot if they had to cheap out
If they added mouse support, it would make my entire existence worthwhile.
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It be great, I be fine using touch to do stuff like sampling, menus etc but you need the fidelity of a mouse to edit. Plus expand the chord feature, add stuff like strum, ate custom arps etc similar to how you can create them in Cthulu. There’s so many small things which can elevate the MPC platform to being an essential toolkit. Releasing new plugins is nice, but it’s a bandaid to distract from addressing core issues in my opinion which needs to be addressed. Another major example is grid edit, I don’t get why JJOS method where you can scroll and then punch in stuff without playback is not something adopted as well.
I mean what’s the point of a new MPC if it’s going to have the same issues?, except have more ram and be smoother in loading plugins?.
The Wizard of Oz stood behind that curtain for a reason.
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I do believe in them, I mean they’re not scumbags like Behringer and they make great products. I bought their products several times, I mean it’s good enough and there’s more love than people like me moaning. But yeah I gone past just doing boom bap, sampling stuff. I’m more into making my own music and want just the right tools to do it.
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Glad you got that off your chest, it will be easier to find what you need now that you let the mpc go…
On another note good boom bap is one of the hardest kinds of music to make.
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Not denigrating boom bap, I love it man. I just want to make my own samples to flip into beats than rely on having to sample stuff from. I probably just look in and see what new stuff if they release anything. I’m sure they address some of the points, and like I said I want it to succeed. But I just wasn’t having fun with the MPC. I blame myself, I bought the Live x2, MPC Live x4 , MPC one x2 and Keys 37 once. I should have stopped myself, but there’s a part of me interested in if things are different. For the most part 3.5 is good, and younger me would have killed on this device .
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No need for a mouse there. Broken record, but nearly it’s a year after the 3.0 beta launched and I still find it hard to credit that they’ve insisting on taking a sledgehammer to that core way of doing things and are showing no signs of correcting course.
If I had to pick one I’d probably say Push with caveats in terms of needing to be willing to put some grunt work into customising templates/racks/max devices etc.
But current-gun MPCs are still a great choice for a lot of different approaches and styles, right now there’s even a choice available between radically different firmware approaches if you’re willing to forego some of the newest plugins on 2.x.
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don’t blame yourself you’re doing the right thing, I went through the same thing with all the maschine models except the +, nothing can determine our creativity not even us, the right thing is just the right thing! 
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if they just put out a new 4000 in the formfactor of the mpc X it would sell well
Isnt that just a MPC X ? Only major major difference in hardware is the quality of the audio interface which went up to 96khz. But tbf you at least swithch audio interface on the new MPCs which is amazing.
The 4k has very baked in modulation and the multi programs. Think the new modern MPC OS does now provide a lot of modulation options.
Biggest difference is modern OS feels overbaked and old school MPC4k is more focused. Although MPCs heads at the time prob felt it was overbaked compared to the 3k.
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definitely haha that was the talk… but it’s for sure more focused than the mpc 3.0
but who knows what akai will end up with in this current state of play…